stefmeister Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 Not quite. The Strive is exactly that - an out and out race bike. I think they missed the boat on the geo. Use the Shapeshifter to go from 64°-66° HTA and STA from 75° to 77°. Another thing I've noticed; Strive CF 5.0 is 15.6 kg. Dafuq is happening to bikes lately. Almost every new bike is 0.5 - 1 kg heavier than it's predecessor. Is this all thanks to that stupid NX cassette, or cheap-ass carbon being used? Odinson 1
Odinson Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 Another thing I've noticed; Strive CF 5.0 is 15.6 kg. Dafuq is happening to bikes lately. Almost every new bike is 0.5 - 1 kg heavier than it's predecessor. Is this all thanks to that stupid NX cassette, or cheap-ass carbon being used? That's pretty damn fat for a carbon race bike. stefmeister 1
PhilipV Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 Another thing I've noticed; Strive CF 5.0 is 15.6 kg. Dafuq is happening to bikes lately. Almost every new bike is 0.5 - 1 kg heavier than it's predecessor. Is this all thanks to that stupid NX cassette, or cheap-ass carbon being used?My working class ali Trance weighs the same as my mate's SkouPonie Evil. Both with rather burly instead of lighter builds. I'll take a bit of weight if it means stronger any day, but there no chance I'm paying that much money for a 15.6kg Canyon. norrafok is not just a place in Russia. Dieter!, Patensie, Rigardt@Scott and 1 other 4
Hairy Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 My old Cannondale MOTTO with burly parts spec was on the 15.5kg mark .... and I personally have no wish to go back to a bike that heavy again. My working class ali Trance weighs the same as my mate's SkouPonie Evil. Both with rather burly instead of lighter builds. I'll take a bit of weight if it means stronger any day, but there no chance I'm paying that much money for a 15.6kg Canyon. norrafok is not just a place in Russia.
stefmeister Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 My mid-range Hightower CC is 13kg on the dot , I'm sure You could build one for 12kg and still have it ready to take on an EWS stage carbon bikes just shouldn't weight that much New Bronson is also a bit of a porker. You'd have to go XO1 build to get it anywhere close to 13 kg, or run 2.0" renegades to get it below 13 kg. It's almost as if in the last two years every new bike has gotten heavier and heavier. I see this on Alu frames as well. The only bikes that seem to not follow that trend is Scott. BaGearA 1
Odinson Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 For reference: You can get a 29" Radon Swoop in alu for 14.2kg (S frame) for a lot less dollas than the new Strive. Capricorn, Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and Dirt Tracker 3
Rigardt@Scott Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 My mid-range Hightower CC is 13kg on the dot , I'm sure You could build one for 12kg and still have it ready to take on an EWS stage carbon bikes just shouldn't weight that much Yeah, it's mine he is speaking of, 14.2kg. Tbh I dunno where the weight really is - but it's there. Nothing too high end, I run GX eagle groupo, Ribbon fork, Spank wheels - which are on the heavier side, but my tyres are EXO casing, carbon bars, light pedals, etc. Carbon does not necessarilly = light. No complaints though, got an extra 15kg to lose before I would even go down the weight weenying route.
PhilipV Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 My old Cannondale MOTTO with burly parts spec was on the 15.5kg mark .... and I personally have no wish to go back to a bike that heavy again.That frame alone is probably 7kgs. Hairy 1
Eddy Gordo Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 Tyres weigh alot, unless you using some thin lite rubber. Then cassette and crank also contributes to the weight.
Mada3400 Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 For reference: You can get a 29" Radon Swoop in alu for 14.2kg (S frame) for a lot less dollas than the new Strive. I approve of this comment Sidenote: the mid spec one (pictured above) with a lyrik RC2 is absurd value for money It's important to note though that the tyres this comes with might need replacing with something heavier, so dont take it as 14.2kg, more like 14.6kg Odinson 1
Patensie Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 I also noticed the porky trend in new bikes. Put it in perspective, my 2014 SC5010 carbon, sram x1, pike & dropper weighs in at 12.2 kg with flat pedals and 2.3 tyres. Similar new 5010 almost 1kg heavier. stefmeister 1
Eddy Gordo Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 Mixed feelings about this one Almost like the commencal meta series, where that linkage was on the downtube. Hairy 1
Yo-Yo Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 Almost like the commencal meta series, where that linkage was on the downtube. Like the Propain Hugene set up.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 Yeah, almost. Both VPP sorta designs, as there's a bottom linkage, but the Propain has the shock attached to the lower linkage in a floating arrangement, and the chainstay attaches to the link in front of the ST instead of behind it. Dirt Tracker 1
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