'Dale Posted July 29, 2014 Share I like the look of the new F8 much more than the older Dogma, but how about this? That crankAAARRRRGHH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bianchisti Posted July 29, 2014 Share Dude tells me it's about kilo heavier than most frames but stiff as hell apparently. Any force into that BB converts to forward movement in no uncertain terms. His been racing for 17 years and never had anything quicker. Integrated brakes is damn gorgeous. Edited July 29, 2014 by Bianchisti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cippo Posted July 29, 2014 Share That crankAAARRRRGHH Better? 'Dale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetseun Posted July 29, 2014 Share Hey Hubbers, I am considering the F8, anyone got this yet.....except the reviews from media....any comment on this bikeI don't have one. I do however have a woody after seeing this one! BenReaper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaper Posted July 29, 2014 Share I can only dream of one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie Posted July 29, 2014 Share If you have that kind of cash, why not have a bike custom designed and hand built (stiffness tuned to your requirements) and painted to taste? Parlee Z0, ESX, or something from Sarto, for example. Since the frame in question probably weigh the same as 2x top of the range from most manufacturers, light weight is not an objective for the build in question. That means a frame in titanium can easily fit the bill, too. I like Eriksen or Baum. Lastly, since frame weigt is not an issue, custom steel can also work. Google Pegoretti. Re the Dogma, it is too much money for a mass production Chinese bike, with or without a serial nr imo. Edited July 29, 2014 by Christie 'Dale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spark Posted July 29, 2014 Share If you have that kind of cash, why not have a bike custom designed and hand built (stiffness tuned to your requirements) and painted to taste? Parlee Z0, ESX, or something from Sarto, for example. Since the frame in question probably weigh the same as 2x top of the range from most manufacturers, light weight is not an objective for the build in question. That means a frame in titanium can easily fit the bill, too. I like Eriksen or Baum. Lastly, since frame weigt is not an issue, custom steel can also work. Google Pegoretti. Re the Dogma, it is too much money for a mass production Chinese bike, with or without a serial nr imo.Jealousy makes you nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spark Posted July 29, 2014 Share Hey Hubbers, I am considering the F8, anyone got this yet.....except the reviews from media....any comment on this bikeBuy it. I have 65.1 Think2 and it is out of this world. F8 will rule Keithc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arendoog Posted July 29, 2014 Share If you have that kind of cash, why not have a bike custom designed and hand built (stiffness tuned to your requirements) and painted to taste? Parlee Z0, ESX, or something from Sarto, for example. Since the frame in question probably weigh the same as 2x top of the range from most manufacturers, light weight is not an objective for the build in question. That means a frame in titanium can easily fit the bill, too. I like Eriksen or Baum. Lastly, since frame weigt is not an issue, custom steel can also work. Google Pegoretti. Re the Dogma, it is too much money for a mass production Chinese bike, with or without a serial nr imo.I would rather get me one of these http://www.englishcycles.com/custom-wheels/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie Posted July 29, 2014 Share Jealousy makes you nasty"... He draweth out the thread of his verbosity finer than the staple of his argument" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big JD Posted July 29, 2014 Share Aah Christie, your posts are generally high quality, but you have consistently slated Pinarello. What's the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJpak Posted July 29, 2014 Share Go Dogma F8 Olympic cycle owner did a test ride.He siad F8 is lighter and more reponsive? Whatever ~~ I like my 65.1 hahaha I just need a training partner..hahaha Keithc and Spark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie Posted July 29, 2014 Share Aah Christie, your posts are generally high quality, but you have consistently slated Pinarello. What's the problem?I like the look of the F8, much more than any of the predecessors. It is the first really good looking Dogma. In terms of weight, the previous Dogmas were waaay below par - they are heavier than aluminium frames, when the cutting edge of bicycle structural engineering is at frame weights of 700 to 800 grams. (it would be interesting to compare the weight of those Dogma frames without serial numbers, to see if there is a difference) Regarding weight of the F8, it is respectable for an aero frame, and a definite improvement. I do find the price amusing, though - it is similar to or more than a hand built custom, which I consider a better buy.Comparing the F8 to the new Colnago aero bike, for example: for me it is much of a muchness. The aero Colnago is built by Giant in Taiwan, the F8 is built in China. Both not worth more than other bikes from the same factories in engineering terms.The Colnago C60, however is made and painted in Italy. That is still worth something, and could justify extra $ on the sticker. My personal stable peaked at 5 bikes. I have since sold all my road bikes, but I have rolled on Colnagos, Cannondales, Scott, Cervelo, Merkcx, with top of the range everything. I never saw a difference in my performance from the one to the next in races, and I really took it to the n-th degree, with coaching, power meters (I have had 3 at one time) etc. In the end, I solidly agree with LA (hate to admit) - it is so not about the bike. Edited July 29, 2014 by Christie Keithc, Prince, X-Man and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big JD Posted July 30, 2014 Share Good answer as always Christie! I am not too hung up on a few grams of frame weight and have found the ride characteristics of the Dogma to be exceptional. However having owned a good few top end bikes myself, I have to agree that it is not about the bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Lizard Posted July 30, 2014 Share Cycle Science should have one at a discounted price Keithc, Ispeed_V, Long Wheel Base and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ispeed_V Posted July 30, 2014 Share Can think of a much better way to spend R170k Jealous - yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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