BlackSnow Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) Hey fellow hubbers...I don't want to be THAT guy but ...!!! What's the general feeling/rules about ordering from CRC at huge discounts and selling it for a 25% plus markup on the hub. I hate to see my fellow riders pay so much and I recon these sellers won't honor product warranties that CRC would. Recon there is a market for getting these items immediately and not having to deal with SAPO and customs etc. But the question is should seller be open and honest about this. PS: Flame-suite On... Edited February 27, 2017 by BlackSnow
jcza Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Hey fellow hubbers...I don't want to be THAT guy but FFS!!! What's the general feeling/rules about ordering from CRC at huge discounts and selling it for a 25% plus markup on the hub. I hate to see my fellow riders pay so much and I recon these sellers won't honor product warranties that CRC would. Recon there is a market for getting these items immediately and not having to deal with SAPO and customs etc. But the question is should seller be open and honest about this. PS: Flame-suite On... Personally I don't see anything wrong with it, someone obviously spotted an opportunity. Nobody is forced to respond to any of the advents. Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1
Patchelicious Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Hey fellow hubbers...I don't want to be THAT guy but ...!!! What's the general feeling/rules about ordering from CRC at huge discounts and selling it for a 25% plus markup on the hub. I hate to see my fellow riders pay so much and I recon these sellers won't honor product warranties that CRC would. Recon there is a market for getting these items immediately and not having to deal with SAPO and customs etc. But the question is should seller be open and honest about this. PS: Flame-suite On...Why? Buy something at a below market costs, sell it at a market related cost... its normal business. Exposing your margin to the Hub? BIG mistake, 1578349t748937643897 millionty experts on here that will tell you why you are not allowed to make that margin. Just be honest about it being grey if it is. I suggest you start a thread about it if you are serious and get some feedback. Good luck getting constructive input though. Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1
bertusras Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Personally I don't see anything wrong with it, someone obviously spotted an opportunity. Nobody is forced to respond to any of the advents. Agreed, however, the seller should state that it is imported and no local warranty applies. Patchelicious and BigTom 2
shaper Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Does anyone not moan and complain??.... can i moan about the moaners?? IH8MUD, Patchelicious, BlackSnow and 1 other 4
BlackSnow Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Point taken. Guess I am just grumpy that I have to deal with SAPO to save a Randella. I see the value and the fact that some hubbers actually use the platform to run businesses make sense wrt margin etc. As you were...
jcza Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Agreed, however, the seller should state that it is imported and no local warranty applies. Is the warranty transferable if you are not the original buyer? (assuming its purchased locally from a authorised agent)
Patchelicious Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Does anyone not moan and complain??.... can i moan about the moaners?? Can I moan at you for moaning about the guys who are having a moan? shaper 1
shaper Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) Can I moan at you for moaning about the guys who are having a moan?Sure why not... everyone seems to want to use the most feeble of excuses to moan... so no need to be different Edited February 27, 2017 by shaper
bertusras Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Is the warranty transferable if you are not the original buyer? (assuming its purchased locally from a authorised agent) Valid point I guess, but if it's being sold as a "new" item, I would expect some form of local support and would be pretty ticked off finding out it's a grey import should something go wrong. Besides, if there's no name on the invoice, how do you verify who the original owner is? jcza 1
BigTom Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Can I moan at you for moaning about the guys who are having a moan?Is it also ok for the guys having a moan to moan about the guys moaning about them having a moan, or is that taking it a step too far? Heel Drop 1
Patchelicious Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Is it also ok for the guys having a moan to moan about the guys moaning about them having a moan, or is that taking it a step too far? Looks, its evident, you can moan about ANYBODY and ANYTHING, no matter how ridiculous and absurd, as long as its not CWC, even if valid..... BigDL 1
jcza Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Valid point I guess, but if it's being sold as a "new" item, I would expect some form of local support and would be pretty ticked off finding out it's a grey import should something go wrong. Besides, if there's no name on the invoice, how do you verify who the original owner is? Its complicated. New means never used not necessarily imported and sold thru the authorised channels.
Bloukrans Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Looks, its evident, you can moan about ANYBODY and ANYTHING, no matter how ridiculous and absurd, as long as its not CWC, even if valid.....Don't you dare... Especially when they at Wines2Wales
bertusras Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 (edited) Its complicated. New means never used not necessarily imported and sold thru the authorised channels. Not really. It's quite simple when it comes to grey imports in my mind. Is the discount given on the import worth more than the risk of not buying local? If it's a high ticket item and you would be seriously advantaged with a local warranty, is saving R500/R1000/R2000 worth it to you? Obviously the seller should compensate himself for dealing with the hassle, but at what point does the monetary value fall short of the support of buying local should something go wrong? However, without knowing that it's a grey import, how can you make a fair assessment? Hence my original statement that you should always declare if you're selling [unofficially] imported goods. Edited February 27, 2017 by bertusras
shaper Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 Valid point I guess, but if it's being sold as a "new" item, I would expect some form of local support and would be pretty ticked off finding out it's a grey import should something go wrong. Besides, if there's no name on the invoice, how do you verify who the original owner is?You are buying on the hub at more than likely less than RRP and you still expect to be able to have a warranty claim? If you want that peace of mind, then go buy from the LBS. As Jcza says, new is new as in never used at that is all it can be. Even if there is a valid invoice, seller buys for R100 rand, you buy off seller for R60 and then you try to make a warranty claim, firstly you are not the original owner irrespective of having the original invoice and you are trying to make a claim of RRP when you did not pay that.... is that not fraud? Skylark 1
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