Cyclists with a "Running" Problem

[Stretch]

In the height of my comrades training the most I pushed was like 110 a week.. And once off..I don't know how you manage regular 100 weeks.. And 150 at that!

[Stretch]

 

 

So I can finally contribute to this thread.

 

I normally run little 5 k runs around the neighbourhood. Maybe once a week. Always just under 30 minutes.

 

About a month ago I signed up to a new gym in the area called F45. It’s a mix of HIIT/functional training/group classes.

 

I have been pushing myself pretty hard there.

 

Decided to go for a run this morning and at 5kms my legs came alive. It felt like I was running on clouds. I decided to push on. At 10kms I messaged the wife and told her I was still running. Legs felt amazing. At several points in the run I actually laughed. I could not believe how good my legs were feeling. I carried on.

 

At 18km I started to slow down. I was no longer able to hold a sub 6min/km pace and it started creeping up. Legs felt heavier and heavier. At 20km I changed direction towards the house and finished on exactly 21km for a total time of 2:04:27

I am pretty proud of myself. I have never run that far or fast in my life.

 

My base fitness has improved so much.

 

Calories burned 1519.

 

I used to think running was for poor people who could not afford a bicycle, but today was really fun.

Awesome Wayne.. Just be cautious of upping the mileage too fast... You will do some damage and get an injury. Give yourself a marathon goal in 6 months and slowly build up to that.

[Mudsimus]

In the height of my comrades training the most I pushed was like 110 a week.. And once off..I don't know how you manage regular 100 weeks.. And 150 at that!

There is a discussion about this on the Comrades group. Distances from Jan to now varies between 300km and 3000km. Dont know how its possible to run 250km/week for 6 months leading up to Comrades.

[dave303e]

In the height of my comrades training the most I pushed was like 110 a week.. And once off..I don't know how you manage regular 100 weeks.. And 150 at that!

 

I am with you on this, I would rather have 50km of quality running that 100km of half arsed km's with no real rest days. Then again I am merely a 100mile trail runner who has never done comrades so i am not a real runner apparently

[Lexx]

I think it also depends on the coach/program you are using. And how fast you are recovering after each hard session.

[Chris_]

There is a discussion about this on the Comrades group. Distances from Jan to now varies between 300km and 3000km. Dont know how its possible to run 250km/week for 6 months leading up to Comrades.

 

I was about to ask whether Mr Rawlinson's mileage was what a gold medal comrades runner looked like. But now that you said this I'm even more gobsmacked! Unbelievable distances.

 

Well done to all who did Two Oceans!

[Stretch]

Mate of mine ran a 3:50 oceans. He is a 9 times comrades silver medalist and that's his first oceans silver. I would say a much more difficult silver. He is very chuffed. Top 1000, 5th girl and top 20 whitey [emoji23]

[Edgar]

I think it also depends on the coach/program you are using. And how fast you are recovering after each hard session.

 

Very much a case of what works for your body and how used to hours it is. I know I respond well to big miles, whether on the bike or running. 

 

Those looking at the 150k week, have a look at my training log on Strava (attached). It has been a steady build to that and no real speed work. This week will be a little easier, next big week will be leading into Loskop. Shorter weeks have more speed and strength(hill work) in them. 

 

It is not that hard to get 100km a week in when you do 50-60k on a weekend and still get two rest days. Effectively resting from Sunday morning after run session till Tuesday morning and possibly on friday as well. Massage/Stretching and effective body management plays a massive role as well.

 

You can't expect to run 90km at 4m30 -4m45 you aren't doing the miles and doing some decent speed work. It is obviously very different if the goal is to finish.There are some people out there that perform really well on 80-100km per week and others that need 150km plus weeks.

 

Everybody is different, it is also one of the strongest reasons why I don't use a coach they often have one program which thy slightly adapt for their athletes. Look at Barry and Jess, they are a great example. Both of them knows what works for them and train accordingly and get the best out of themselves. I am lucky that my training/race partner responds in very similar way to me so we can do all our training together. When I was on the bike, my stage race partner I would only do recovery rides or LSD together despite living less than 5km apart. In two years we probably did 10 training sessions together. He responded to different training to me, but we got to races with as close to zero performance difference as you could hope for. 

 

It is getting to crunch time for comrades training, all the best to all of you and no getting sick or injured. Stick to your plan. 

[ScottCM]

 

 

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[EmJayZA]

You see that women on Facebook bitching because the ladies was pink? I.e. the stereotype of pink girl and blue boy. What do you all think... My thought is... Ffs!

 

 

As a woman, I think that attitude is really stupid. There is a massive Facebook group called Women for Tri, and it has some amazing information there, but every now and then some lady comes to rant about pink, or silly things like race organisers handing out pink wine openers as finishing gifts (apparently not PC because "alcoholism"). The world has gone PC mad. 

 

I used to think running was for poor people who could not afford a bicycle, but today was really fun.

 

Well done. Even as a triathlete, running is my favorite. Running is also the best way to improve cardiovascular fitness imo. 

 

And a massive congrats to everyone who ran Two Oceans. The race reports were awesome. 

Edited April 3, 2018 by EmJayZA

[Lexx]

I agree with Stu. All those guys doing big Mileages have a good base to work from. Sometimes Novices looks at other peoples Strava Log and think they must also get big mileages in. Then after a week or 2 they get injured or sick. Then you are out of training for 2-3 weeks.

[Stretch]

 

You can't expect to run 90km at 4m30 -4m45 you aren't doing the miles and doing some decent speed work. It is obviously very different if the goal is to finish.There are some people out there that perform really well on 80-100km per week and others that need 150km plus weeks.

 

 

I kmow very well that if i wanted to run a sub 8 or silver i would need to be pushing 150+ every week. I just could never commit to that while still balancing my work and my family. As a matter of interest my three rowans looked like this - basically 5 midweek runs at 12 - 15km and one 25 - 30km run on the weekend - with the (very) occasional 40km.

 

[ScottCM]

As a woman, I think that attitude is really stupid. There is a massive Facebook group called Women for Tri, and it has some amazing information there, but every now and then some lady comes to rant about pink, or silly things like race organisers handing out pink wine openers as finishing gifts (apparently not PC because "alcoholism"). The world has gone PC mad. 

 

 

Well done. Even as a triathlete, running is my favorite. Running is also the best way to improve cardiovascular fitness imo. 

 

And a massive congrats to everyone who ran Two Oceans. The race reports were awesome. 

 

I remember when you started out, battling with your runs, its really inspiring how you have come full circle. Congratulations!!

[EmJayZA]

I remember when you started out, battling with your runs, its really inspiring how you have come full circle. Congratulations!!

 

Thanks. Looking back, it has been so very rewarding. It's still super hard, but the results keep coming. I don't see myself doing triathlons for ever, but I don't think I will ever stop running. 

[Edgar]

I kmow very well that if i wanted to run a sub 8 or silver i would need to be pushing 150+ every week. I just could never commit to that while still balancing my work and my family. As a matter of interest my three rowans looked like this - basically 5 midweek runs at 12 - 15km and one 25 - 30km run on the weekend - with the (very) occasional 40km.

 

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The luxury of being able to run at just over 6m/km. That is a great program for a Bill in my opinion and your results suggest it is for you. It is still less time than I used to spend on the bike, and that is why I decided to start running. 8-10h weeks vs 16-20h weeks. The family unit grew and time available shrunk.

 

My missus is also wants to run comrades, the last time she ran was Oceans 2010 and then you discovered MTB. She is doing 60 - 80km weeks and her big weeks will be 100 - 120km and probably only one or two of those. I'm confident she will get a Bill, she just has to do enough to get strong without getting injured. End upon on somewhere between 1200 -1400km for the year on race day. 

[Chris_]

Very much a case of what works for your body and how used to hours it is. I know I respond well to big miles, whether on the bike or running. 

 

Those looking at the 150k week, have a look at my training log on Strava (attached). It has been a steady build to that and no real speed work. This week will be a little easier, next big week will be leading into Loskop. Shorter weeks have more speed and strength(hill work) in them. 

 

It is not that hard to get 100km a week in when you do 50-60k on a weekend and still get two rest days. Effectively resting from Sunday morning after run session till Tuesday morning and possibly on friday as well. Massage/Stretching and effective body management plays a massive role as well.

 

You can't expect to run 90km at 4m30 -4m45 you aren't doing the miles and doing some decent speed work. It is obviously very different if the goal is to finish.There are some people out there that perform really well on 80-100km per week and others that need 150km plus weeks.

 

Everybody is different, it is also one of the strongest reasons why I don't use a coach they often have one program which thy slightly adapt for their athletes. Look at Barry and Jess, they are a great example. Both of them knows what works for them and train accordingly and get the best out of themselves. I am lucky that my training/race partner responds in very similar way to me so we can do all our training together. When I was on the bike, my stage race partner I would only do recovery rides or LSD together despite living less than 5km apart. In two years we probably did 10 training sessions together. He responded to different training to me, but we got to races with as close to zero performance difference as you could hope for. 

 

It is getting to crunch time for comrades training, all the best to all of you and no getting sick or injured. Stick to your plan. 

 

Are you only running here (as a sport)? or how are you fitting in cycling or whatever other training?

 

I applaud these distances, its a lesson in dedication.