J Wakefield Posted September 29, 2018 Share Honest question though... how would you know? I'd assume you coach a few, but outside of your guys?From my understanding the testing is almost non-existent, there is a fair amount of money to throw around, and a equal dose of ego and competition to add to the mix. Unfortunately I don't know as it is pointed out. Jewbacca 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted September 30, 2018 Share Unfortunately I don't know as it is pointed out. hahahaha You just made my day! Doping is like buying followers on Instagram.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcza Posted September 30, 2018 Share Bikehub logic....Pro peloton is clean but licenced and Engen riders are not. Comedy gold jdwet1980 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted September 30, 2018 Share Bikehub logic....Pro peloton is clean but licenced and Engen riders are not. Comedy gold JCZA logic. A few opinions now equals BikeHub logic. Cynicism gold. Neither are clean. Edited September 30, 2018 by Patchelicious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted September 30, 2018 Share A vet just won Worlds.... so ja ???? Edited September 30, 2018 by Patchelicious intern, Andrew Steer and Pure Savage 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcza Posted September 30, 2018 Share A vet just won Worlds.... so ja [emoji441]Sometimes the script just writes itself....I suppose LOL is the only appropriate response [emoji23] intern, Andrew Steer, Pure Savage and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtr1 Posted September 30, 2018 Share A vet just won Worlds.... so ja 'Former' doper.................. Pure Savage and Patchelicious 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Wakefield Posted September 30, 2018 Share A vet just won Worlds.... so ja From the Engen group? nathrix, peetwindhoek and Pure Savage 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted September 30, 2018 Share From the Engen group?No, Valverde wouldn’t stand a chance there. Li Mu Bai, nathrix and peetwindhoek 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quagga Posted October 1, 2018 Share 'Former' doper..................Who won? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Steer Posted October 1, 2018 Share Unfortunately I don't know as it is pointed out. Hope no offence was taken, just an honest question - your insights are always greatly valued Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtr1 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Who won?Valverde Quagga 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quagga Posted October 1, 2018 Share ValverdeFACEPALM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtr1 Posted October 1, 2018 Share I don't really have an issue with Valverde winning. It was a great and exciting race. And he rode it perfectly. He doped, paid the price, came back. I'd like to think that current doping controls means he can't still be doping, so too most the peleton. (I believe in fairy tales) My only issue is how people can crucify 1 rider as an ex-doper and others are regarded as heroes. Should all be equal. I suppose at the end of the day, it's who we like and who we don't. Jakkals., DieselnDust, Vetplant and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peetwindhoek Posted October 1, 2018 Share I don't really have an issue with Valverde winning. It was a great and exciting race. And he rode it perfectly. He doped, paid the price, came back. I'd like to think that current doping controls means he can't still be doping, so too most the peleton. (I believe in fairy tales) My only issue is how people can crucify 1 rider as an ex-doper and others are regarded as heroes. Should all be equal. I suppose at the end of the day, it's who we like and who we don't. Some are more equal than others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted October 1, 2018 Share I don't really have an issue with Valverde winning. It was a great and exciting race. And he rode it perfectly. He doped, paid the price, came back. I'd like to think that current doping controls means he can't still be doping, so too most the peleton. (I believe in fairy tales) My only issue is how people can crucify 1 rider as an ex-doper and others are regarded as heroes. Should all be equal. I suppose at the end of the day, it's who we like and who we don't.He never admitted the doping, he just took a holiday in 2011. As if the biggest bust in doping never happened, zero remorse. Thats why people dont like him. We crucify people that have never tested positive but this bell end wins a world champs after being popped and we supposed to be like, meh, well done. FootballingCyclist and Andrew Steer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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