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[eccc whippet]

Templates works so well!!! Especially for high volume or precise routing.

 

A 6 mm template should be thick enough- why do you need 9 mm? I only use 9 mm when I use a template bushing (only done it once so far).

 

My routing "coach" glues together 2 pieces of masonite to get 6mm thick which he then uses for his frequently used templates. He said they have a longer wearing life than mdf.

 

If you can't have screw holes in your product, you call also use double sided sellotape to attach the template to the plywood.

 

Depending on the size of the work piece, the table router should be safer and give better results, but if it gets too big, the handheld router will be safer. If possible, you can still use the fence, or another type of guard as well - but that only works for outside routing.

trying out stuff...i will try the masonite..in fact i am going to attach the steel template to it for strength and see how it works...the reason i want to go thinner on the template is cut depth...longer bits = more cash outlay..had the 51 mm 1/2 inch bit hit the template after it got hectic hot while cutting the 16 mm mdf templates...absolutely destroyed it...R500 later

 

i normally finish off on the table router with a trim bit...however it means moving back inside the workshop...and more mess...at the moment i do the cutting outside...less mess...and boy does the wood dust get into everything...especially mdf...i also use a proper dust mask other wise my throat feels like sand paper by the end of the day.

[Long Wheel Base]

Uhm, cabinetry porn, there is a diffirence

Just for my info, What is the difference? I googled cabinetry and all I could really understand was it's the making of cabinets and bookshelves. TBH I didn't even know it had its own name. 

[Stretched@Birth]

Hi Stretched, if i may ask, which company do you work for? Do you also sell exotics?

I'm at Foresta Timber & Board in Alberton, we have a little bit of hardwood stock (some Iroko, Red and White Oak, some Beech and some Cherry), we generally do hardwoods on special order when customers require it. We stock quite a bit of Meranti, the bulk of our sales though is Pine and ply.

[eccc whippet]

2 words:

 

Laser Cutting

 

Laser Profiling in Jacobs. Speak to Robert. I made a forming profile recently from supawood to bend aluminium around. The cost of material and cutting was less than I would have paid for a sheet and I didn't have to deal with the mess and the offcuts. There will be a once off drawing charge to draw the profile (they can copy a sample).

 

They supply material and will cut pretty much anything [emoji106]

i get my metal templates laser cut...i am told cutting sheets of plywood gets expensive and burns the wood...the guys who do the templates design and modify my templates at no extra charge.

 

talking of bending aluminum...anyone have a strongman square tube bender (complete...with 16 ...20 and 25 mm die)  they want to sell

[Rata-tat-tat]

Just for my info, What is the difference? I googled cabinetry and all I could really understand was it's the making of cabinets and bookshelves. TBH I didn't even know it had its own name.

It's purely about the attention to detail.

 

"Whilst both cabinet makers and carpenters are masters at working with wood it is the cabinet makers that take the art one step further and focus on the finer details of what can be created with timber. Their focus on detail leads cabinet makers towards a concentration on internal fitting such as kitchens, bookcases, tables, cabinets, and benches".

 

So, how Ed Zulu came to his conclusion that the toolbox in the image belonged to, or is exclusively used by a cabinet maker is beyond me.

 

As mentioned in the post the image featured on the front page an older American Carpentry publication. I cannot for the life of me find the source, but I'll hazard a guess it was early 90's.

[Ed-Zulu]

Just for my info, What is the difference? I googled cabinetry and all I could really understand was it's the making of cabinets and bookshelves. TBH I didn't even know it had its own name. 

Cabinetry and carpentry are separated, in general terms, between the intricacy of the work being performed.

 

Carpenters are generally tradesman working with large wood construction like homes, their trusses, doors, windows, ceilings etc. Whereas cabinet makers are those performing the trade where the furniture, cupboards, boxes and items of finer details are constructed for use in the home.

 

In Europe there is a distinct separation of the two trades and here in South Africa it use to be the same.

 

As highlighted by goat "  it is the cabinet makers that take the art one step further and focus on the finer details of what can be created with timber. Their focus on detail leads cabinet makers towards a concentration on internal fitting such as kitchens, bookcases, tables, cabinets, and benches"

 

The specific tool cabinet shown belonged to a piano and organ maker H.O. Studley, who started out as a carpenter and progressed to cabinetry of the finest form. The tools in that cabinet will be ruined in general carpentry.

 

[Long Wheel Base]

It's purely about the attention to detail.

 

"Whilst both cabinet makers and carpenters are masters at working with wood it is the cabinet makers that take the art one step further and focus on the finer details of what can be created with timber. Their focus on detail leads cabinet makers towards a concentration on internal fitting such as kitchens, bookcases, tables, cabinets, and benches".

 

So, how Ed Zulu came to his conclusion that the toolbox in the image belonged to, or is exclusively used by a cabinet maker is beyond me.

 

As mentioned in the post the image featured on the front page an older American Carpentry publication. I cannot for the life of me find the source, but I'll hazard a guess it was early 90's.

 

 

Cabinetry and carpentry are separated, in general terms, between the intricacy of the work being performed.

 

Carpenters are generally tradesman working with large wood construction like homes, their trusses, doors, windows, ceilings etc. Whereas cabinet makers are those performing the trade where the furniture, cupboards, boxes and items of finer details are constructed for use in the home.

 

In Europe there is a distinct separation of the two trades and here in South Africa it use to be the same.

 

As highlighted by goat "  it is the cabinet makers that take the art one step further and focus on the finer details of what can be created with timber. Their focus on detail leads cabinet makers towards a concentration on internal fitting such as kitchens, bookcases, tables, cabinets, and benches"

 

The specific tool cabinet shown belonged to a piano and organ maker H.O. Studley, who started out as a carpenter and progressed to cabinetry of the finest form. The tools in that cabinet will be ruined in general carpentry.

 

Thanks Guys. Very interesting. Learnt something new.

[Plentipotential]

Carpenter

 

 

[Plentipotential]

Cabinet Maker

 

 

[Wannabe]

Me.     

 

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[Grebel]

i get my metal templates laser cut...i am told cutting sheets of plywood gets expensive and burns the wood...the guys who do the templates design and modify my templates at no extra charge.

 

talking of bending aluminum...anyone have a strongman square tube bender (complete...with 16 ...20 and 25 mm die)  they want to sell

 

Not sure on the cost. You would need to do the exercise. They work that out based on machine time and material. For example thinner plate costs less to cut as the wattage doesn't need to be turned up that high. The gas pressure is also lower so usage is less. Cutting stainless is different to cutting mild steel as they use different gasses an wattages at the same thickness.

 

The material cost as mentioned sometimes comes out lower as you only pay for what you cut so you aren't paying for a whole sheet only the wood that you uses.

 

The one side effect of cutting wood is that it does burn the cutting edge. You can however incorporate that into the aesthetics of the piece.

[mon-goose]

I'm looking for wood to possibly make the sleeper couch I posted. My estimate is I'll need 12m of wood roughly 10cmx10cm to make the side frames. I'm thinking Meranti as it'll look nicer once sanded and varnished. Is there anyone in the CT area that could give me an idea of where to get this and what cost I'm looking at

[eccc whippet]

 

 

Carpenters are generally tradesman working with large wood construction like homes, their trusses, doors, windows, ceilings etc. Whereas cabinet makers are those performing the trade where the furniture, cupboards, boxes and items of finer details are constructed for use in the home.

 

 

 

As highlighted by goat "  it is the cabinet makers that take the art one step further and focus on the finer details of what can be created with timber. Their focus on detail leads cabinet makers towards a concentration on internal fitting such as kitchens, bookcases, tables, cabinets, and benches"

 

eeeish i think back in the day when we still had tradesman ...i see a lot of kitchen cabinets built...and they certain dont quality as cabinet makers. 

 

now days they fall into the same category as "technicians" ..."kitchen cabinet makers" ...a 2 day or 2 week course gets you a qualification which the customer seems to think entitles them to a R600 per hour + labour cost...yet they squeal to pay certified skilled artisans R 400 per hour (the rate most electricians charge) and they wonder why the boss man drops off a couple "semi skilled" while he spends the rest of the day on his bicycle or in the pub. 

[Ed-Zulu]

eeeish i think back in the day when we still had tradesman ...i see a lot of kitchen cabinets built...and they certain dont quality as cabinet makers. 

 

now days they fall into the same category as "technicians" ..."kitchen cabinet makers" ...a 2 day or 2 week course gets you a qualification which the customer seems to think entitles them to a R600 per hour + labour cost...yet they squeal to pay certified skilled artisans R 400 per hour (the rate most electricians charge) and they wonder why the boss man drops off a couple "semi skilled" while he spends the rest of the day on his bicycle or in the pub. 

It pains me how watered down certain "trades" have become, but it also gives me great pleasure when a fellow tradesman admires your work or comments on it. 

Edited June 22, 2017 by Ed-Zulu

[Hairy]

I'm at Foresta Timber & Board in Alberton, we have a little bit of hardwood stock (some Iroko, Red and White Oak, some Beech and some Cherry), we generally do hardwoods on special order when customers require it. We stock quite a bit of Meranti, the bulk of our sales though is Pine and ply.

We just recently did a house with lots of Iroko external cladding and screens  ... I enjoy Iroko as a finish. Used it on a house in Durbanville a good many years ago for the solid doors, windows, floors and pergola's .... the timber still looks awesome following a quick drive by the other day.

[Hairy]

Carpenter

Busy with a roof truss that is essentially the same design as that, other than the king post drops below the tie beam by about 50mm as part of the detailing element....they look good on site.