nochain Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 Just want to say how proud I was of Louis giving it hammer and tongs at the top, Yates was turning himself inside out to stay on his wheel. Feeling very patriotic!! With a team that protects him he will do well I reckon!1000% He did as much as he could..and understandable we all want more.Over the last 2 days on the biggest mountains he was basically just beaten by the riders that are on the podium now.Best young rider on the climbs for sure!!I do agree with most that I would like him to give the Giro a go next year..skip the tdf and then do Vuelta.
Thor Buttox Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 Whatever SKY are paying him, its not enough.This. As I was watching I thought exactly the same thing. My new secret cycling crush when he stopped and put his foot down I knew I could be like a pro.
dsw Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 So where was Landa at the end? After all the hype I expected him to help pull Froome clear. Taking into consideration that he probably still has the Giro in his legs ( remember he raced hard after the crash and dominated the mountain stages at the end of that race) I think he performed remarkedly well during this TdF.
Jaco-fiets Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 Just want to say how proud I was of Louis giving it hammer and tongs at the top, Yates was turning himself inside out to stay on his wheel. Feeling very patriotic!! With a team that protects him he will do well I reckon! He can climb with the best of them......he proved that yet again. However I do think he needs to stop riding defensively. He needs to show some balls and attack the main contenders on climbs like today. That is the only way he will gain more confidence and move up a level
dev null Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 Just want to say how proud I was of Louis giving it hammer and tongs at the top, Yates was turning himself inside out to stay on his wheel. Feeling very patriotic!! With a team that protects him he will do well I reckon! I am sure that if Atapuma and Ulissi rode with him on the last climb in an attack he could have gained another 30 to 45 seconds on Yates. Not enough, but just enough to scare Yates into riding a very nervous TT and maybe make a mistake.
Bonus Posted July 20, 2017 Author Posted July 20, 2017 It's been said before, watching the shots from the motos just doesn't do the gradient justice.
rock Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 Was happy to see The Cheese drop Yates over the last 2 days. The gap is just too big. And ... he needed a LOT of time as Yates is a better TT rider anyway. this is the other yates brother right? the one that served a drugs ban last year? just checking.
J Wakefield Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 So where was Landa at the end? After all the hype I expected him to help pull Froome clear. Landa lost huge form during this Tour, he basically did recovery rides around France admiring the scenery with a small sprint effort for 20s on route till yesterday. He was battling to balance and knew his form had gone downhill and decided to do a small effort to wake up the system. Problem was he was riding fasted all day and once he went from burning fat to Carbs during the Hi intensity effort, he wasn't used to it and blew. Its like coming off the couch after 3 weeks and trying to hit a all out intensity effort. *posted this in mag magazine*
J Wakefield Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Not too clued up on roadies so help me here How stong is uran vs. froome on TT i.e. will he put time into froome at all ? Uran is very very good at TT. When he has had form like does know he had previously beat Froome in 2014 by over a minute. Yes its a long time ago but that is also the last time Uran was riding like he is now.
Vetplant Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Landa lost huge form during this Tour, he basically did recovery rides around France admiring the scenery with a small sprint effort for 20s on route till yesterday. He was battling to balance and knew his form had gone downhill and decided to do a small effort to wake up the system. Problem was he was riding fasted all day and once he went from burning fat to Carbs during the Hi intensity effort, he wasn't used to it and blew. Its like coming off the couch after 3 weeks and trying to hit a all out intensity effort. *posted this in mag magazine*And yet he is only 1min36 behind the Yellow Jersey. Looking forward to him moving to a different team next year to hopefully compete for the title when he is actually in full form. Could make things very interesting.
scotty Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Froome has acknowledged how good Landa is and with reports of him leaving sees him as a very good challenger. Sky seem to pop out GC contenders to be snatched up by other teams, Uran, Porte, Landa, the list grows.
kosmonooit Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 It's been said before, watching the shots from the motos just doesn't do the gradient justice. Yup one has to been an eye on trees, signposts and buldings to get an idea. Much say its a relief that no one is slinging 'doper' mud at Chris this year, I think he is really showing himself to be the worthy champ he is. Who was it on here on the hub that wouldn't STF up in this regard- our new CSA treasurer was it? (LOL)
Fat Boab Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Not too clued up on roadies so help me here How stong is uran vs. froome on TT i.e. will he put time into froome at all ? Well in this years opening prologue, Froome was 51 s ahead of Uran. Yes, it was raining......
kosmonooit Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Froome has acknowledged how good Landa is and with reports of him leaving sees him as a very good challenger. Sky seem to pop out GC contenders to be snatched up by other teams, Uran, Porte, Landa, the list grows. Perhaps doing the support role for someone like Chris is a pathway to GC contender elsewhere, but if you come into a team with that role one you are obligated to honor that imo and not to showboat your ambitions, and it also shows that Sky are good at finding these people. Its worked out well at Sky this time and Chris has handled it with great skill and honesty (cf sourpoes Wiggo when Chris was working for him) , lets see it the Basque warrior can pull it off elsewhere (Porte hasn't) but he does show great potential and has taken mountain stages at Grand Tours.
Fat Boab Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Well in this years opening prologue, Froome was 51 s ahead of Uran. Yes, it was raining...... More detailed commentary on Uran vs Froome below. Place your bets! https://cyclingtips.com/2017/07/tour-de-france-analysis-can-rigoberto-uran-take-yellow-22km-time-trial/
Plentipotential Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 And yet he is only 1min36 behind the Yellow Jersey. Looking forward to him moving to a different team next year to hopefully compete for the title when he is actually in full form. Could make things very interesting. He is very close to Froome, as Froome was to Wiggins when he played the support role. Sky manage the race differently to other teams and I for one think Froome was only under pressure once this year, stage 5. And then Landa did to Froome what Froome did to Wiggins, what goes round comes round. What will be interesting to see is can Landa step up to the role of leader and handle the pressure of expectation. Important to remember that Froome has very good riders to support him unlike the other GC contenders. Looking at the top 10 places this morning the other 9 riders have had poor support over the 3 weeks. Yes now and again there have been team mates to help, yesterday AGLM rode on the front for a while but Froome has had strong support every day all day. Most teams seem to hedge their bets with a contender and perhaps a stage winner. BMC for example had Porte but what was Roche up to? No doubt BMC's management will be on the red carpet next week, they get a load of money and have not delivered. Sunweb on the other hand have managed their race extremely well, not looking for an overall place they have come away with 4 stage wins and 2 jerseys, very successful tour imo. It's all about going with a plan and all the role players buying into the plan.
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