Wayne pudding Mol Posted April 15, 2019 Share I think experience trumped youth yesterday.MvdP is a star - he made that so exciting. First time I've watched PR. I could not believe he made it back into the Peloton after the crash. Then to make the break. Exuberance of youth for sure but there is no doubt about his talent and grit. Maybe his overconfidence on the bike and sublime handling skills cost yesterday. Perhaps if he was more conservative he'd have stayed on. I don't know what was going on with his team, maybe he said don't wait for me - but as a spectator they seem sh*t and not up to it. Long Wheel Base 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/164472-the-classics/page/299/#findComment-3488689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowl Posted April 15, 2019 Share MvdP is a star - he made that so exciting. First time I've watched PR. I could not believe he made it back into the Peloton after the crash. Then to make the break. Exuberance of youth for sure but there is no doubt about his talent and grit. Maybe his overconfidence on the bike and sublime handling skills cost yesterday. Perhaps if he was more conservative he'd have stayed on. I don't know what was going on with his team, maybe he said don't wait for me - but as a spectator they seem sh*t and not up to it.WvA???? Underachiever, Long Wheel Base, pe3nguin and 5 others 8 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/164472-the-classics/page/299/#findComment-3488721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Wheel Base Posted April 15, 2019 Share MvdP is a star - he made that so exciting. First time I've watched PR. I could not believe he made it back into the Peloton after the crash. Then to make the break. Exuberance of youth for sure but there is no doubt about his talent and grit. Maybe his overconfidence on the bike and sublime handling skills cost yesterday. Perhaps if he was more conservative he'd have stayed on. I don't know what was going on with his team, maybe he said don't wait for me - but as a spectator they seem sh*t and not up to it.You talking about WvA. MvdP is the guy that won the midweek Flanders race last Wednesday. The current cyclocross champ. WvA is the ex cyclocross champ. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/164472-the-classics/page/299/#findComment-3488724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted April 15, 2019 Share MvdP is a star - he made that so exciting. First time I've watched PR. I could not believe he made it back into the Peloton after the crash. Then to make the break. Exuberance of youth for sure but there is no doubt about his talent and grit. Maybe his overconfidence on the bike and sublime handling skills cost yesterday. Perhaps if he was more conservative he'd have stayed on. I don't know what was going on with his team, maybe he said don't wait for me - but as a spectator they seem sh*t and not up to it.Phil Liggett, is that you? Nibali, Pure Savage, hboli4 and 14 others 17 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/164472-the-classics/page/299/#findComment-3488727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne pudding Mol Posted April 15, 2019 Share You talking about WvA. MvdP is the guy that won the midweek Flanders race last Wednesday. The current cyclocross champ. WvA is the ex cyclocross champ.Yes I stand corrected - got confused by the acronyms and outstanding Cyclocross riders - must have picked up Murray Walkers disease listening to Phil Ligget yesterday Edited April 15, 2019 by Waynemol Jewbacca, AfricaMike, pe3nguin and 2 others 5 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/164472-the-classics/page/299/#findComment-3488730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne pudding Mol Posted April 15, 2019 Share Phil Liggett, is that you? aaargh you typed that before I could Gen and Fred van Vlaanderen 2 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/164472-the-classics/page/299/#findComment-3488731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pe3nguin Posted April 15, 2019 Share Yes I stand corrected - got confused by the acronyms and outstanding Cyclocross riders - must have picked up Murray Walkers disease listening to Phil Ligget yesterdayDon't worry about it. WvA and MvdP respective careers are running in parallel rather nicely. You are hardly the first person to confuse them and you won't be the last. Long Wheel Base 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/164472-the-classics/page/299/#findComment-3488746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Wheel Base Posted April 15, 2019 Share Yes I stand corrected - got confused by the acronyms and outstanding Cyclocross riders - must have picked up Murray Walkers disease listening to Phil Ligget yesterdayDon't worry, I cross over to another thread, motoGP for eg and then there are a whole bunch of new names with acronyms to see who we talking about. pe3nguin 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/164472-the-classics/page/299/#findComment-3488747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Wheel Base Posted April 15, 2019 Share How long till MvdP signs with a big team like WvA did? I am sure he watched yesterday and was jealous of WvA. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/164472-the-classics/page/299/#findComment-3488749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pe3nguin Posted April 15, 2019 Share How long till MvdP signs with a big team like WvA did? I am sure he watched yesterday and was jealous of WvA.Not until 2021. He is reportedly on a very nice salary and his current team support his CX and road aspirations and he is building towards 2020 Olympics. After that, all bets are off. The Belgian and Dutch teams would kill to have him on their squads. Most teams would obviously, but he is a hot topic in NL and Flanders. DieselnDust and Long Wheel Base 2 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/164472-the-classics/page/299/#findComment-3488754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Wheel Base Posted April 15, 2019 Share Not until 2021. He is reportedly on a very nice salary and his current team support his CX and road aspirations and he is building towards 2020 Olympics. After that, all bets are off. The Belgian and Dutch teams would kill to have him on their squads. Most teams would obviously, but he is a hot topic in NL and Flanders.We all thought WvA would also still be with his old team for another year until things went south. I am sure he is happy with his current team but I am sure some like the wolfpack, who also supports cx when ZS wants to play in the mud, would be able to pay him more. But there probably isn't space in the wolfpack for him right now. I think there are a couple world tour teams that support both disciplines. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/164472-the-classics/page/299/#findComment-3488761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren_G Posted April 15, 2019 Share Accurate Underachiever, Long Wheel Base, Dirt Tracker and 5 others 8 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/164472-the-classics/page/299/#findComment-3488765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted April 15, 2019 Share Not until 2021. He is reportedly on a very nice salary and his current team support his CX and road aspirations and he is building towards 2020 Olympics. After that, all bets are off. The Belgian and Dutch teams would kill to have him on their squads. Most teams would obviously, but he is a hot topic in NL and Flanders.CX, road and MTB aspirations.... I think only Trek - Segafredo span all of those disciplines at a top level? He wants to compete at the 2020 Olympics on a mountain bike. Also, is the majority of his salary paid by Corendon-Circus or by Canyon? Sagan is mostly paid by Spez, so is tied to the brand. It would be interesting to see if a switch to Katusha or Movistar might be on the cards post Olympics as Canyon pull the strings for their athlete. Edited April 15, 2019 by Jewbacca pe3nguin and Long Wheel Base 2 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/164472-the-classics/page/299/#findComment-3488767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pe3nguin Posted April 15, 2019 Share things went southThis is the important bit. The relationship between WvA and the management of Sniper Cycling deteriorated drastically which prompted the contract cancellation. I think it was an outlier and not indicative of what will happen with MvdP. But time will tell I suppose. Long Wheel Base 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/164472-the-classics/page/299/#findComment-3488768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted April 15, 2019 Share Accurate Valverde is turning into the dog on the right 365 days a year... Warren_G 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/164472-the-classics/page/299/#findComment-3488796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gummibear Posted April 15, 2019 Share Legends[emoji106] pe3nguin 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/164472-the-classics/page/299/#findComment-3488805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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