love2fly Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 On a MTB the freehub needs regular maintenance. ( Roadbikes too especially if like me you ride a Mavic hub....) I've found this out the hard way. Hope this is your issue and that the patient is curable. Steady Spin 1
Steady Spin Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 25 minutes ago, love2fly said: On a MTB the freehub needs regular maintenance. ( Roadbikes too especially if like me you ride a Mavic hub....) I've found this out the hard way. Hope this is your issue and that the patient is curable. Regular maintenance done as well as inspection on the prawls etc. Only the outer bearings were replaced recently. Will get the inners done as well. XD driver is on the cards for later but might be needed sooner. If so I can sell the NX cassette and go for a Garbaruk TheoG 1
ChrisF Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Steady Spin said: Regular maintenance done as well as inspection on the prawls etc. Only the outer bearings were replaced recently. Will get the inners done as well. XD driver is on the cards for later but might be needed sooner. If so I can sell the NX cassette and go for a Garbaruk Sounds like the perfect opportunity to go for SHIMANO ... 😋 Sorry, just could not resist ... TheoG 1
Jewbacca Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 Dunno.... I have hubs which have done upwards of 20000km and never undergone any severe maintenance. My old Hope SS hub was probably pulled apart once in roughly 7 years. This included riding some helluva inhospitable terrain in some dire conditions, swimming in the baviaans and Mordor on Freedom Challenge, etc... I reckon the more you tinker, the more you need to tinker. You guys obsessed with always cleaning, polishing and degreasing your bikes always seem to be the ones with problems. If the bearings feel notchy, replace them. There is a natural residue and build up of gunk that works in your favour. If you are always stripping that away you are creating problems. Anyway, I am currently guilty of my favourite 'pool of 1' peer review study. Without any scientific proof and purely based on anecdotal evidence and 100% bias, I believe if you clean your bike and degrease everything too often you are going to wear through your kit faster than if you just rinsed things off and cleaned things reasonably. gerriemtb 1
Steady Spin Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 1 hour ago, ChrisF said: Sounds like the perfect opportunity to go for SHIMANO ... 😋 Sorry, just could not resist ... No microspline driver available for my hub unfortunately. TheoG and ChrisF 2
Steady Spin Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Jewbacca said: Dunno.... I have hubs which have done upwards of 20000km and never undergone any severe maintenance. My old Hope SS hub was probably pulled apart once in roughly 7 years. This included riding some helluva inhospitable terrain in some dire conditions, swimming in the baviaans and Mordor on Freedom Challenge, etc... I reckon the more you tinker, the more you need to tinker. You guys obsessed with always cleaning, polishing and degreasing your bikes always seem to be the ones with problems. If the bearings feel notchy, replace them. There is a natural residue and build up of gunk that works in your favour. If you are always stripping that away you are creating problems. Anyway, I am currently guilty of my favourite 'pool of 1' peer review study. Without any scientific proof and purely based on anecdotal evidence and 100% bias, I believe if you clean your bike and degrease everything too often you are going to wear through your kit faster than if you just rinsed things off and cleaned things reasonably. I don’t tinker to the level of causing more headaches though. Keep my bike clean and drivetrain maintained. Wheel bearings only done now after about 18 months and 6000km. I blame cheap bearings from the factory Fiance’s bike eats a set of bearings every 12 months. If the seatpost creaks I clean and replace the fibergrip. Same with the bars. Headset clean and regrease happens when the fork is serviced. So twice a year basically. BB service happens when the chainring gets replaced. I’ve never needed to replace BB bearings in my life. Lucky I guess. I really miss Hope hubs though. Never needed maintenance and just kept going and going on my Morewood. The new owner has the same experience I’m sure. So yeah. Until recently I mostly just clean the bike twice a month and lube at the same time. Edited December 30, 2021 by Steady Spin Jewbacca 1
Jewbacca Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 Just now, Steady Spin said: I don’t tinker to the level of causing more headaches though. Keep my bike clean and drivetrain maintained. If the seatpost creaks I clean and replace the fibergrip. Same with the bars. Headset clean and regrease happens when the fork is serviced. So twice a year basically. BB service happens when the chainring gets replaced. I’ve never needed to replace BB bearings in my life. Lucky I guess. I really miss Hope hubs though. Never needed maintenance and just kept going and going on my Morewood. The new owner has the same experience I’m sure. So yeah. Until recently I mostly just clean the bike twice a month and lube at the same time. I wasn't aiming at you specifically. More the comment about how hubs need regular maintenance and how some guys obsess about using paraffin and other degreasers to scrub out their chain and cassette etc... Some of that is good gunk! ChrisF and Steady Spin 2
Steady Spin Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jewbacca said: I wasn't aiming at you specifically. More the comment about how hubs need regular maintenance and how some guys obsess about using paraffin and other degreasers to scrub out their chain and cassette etc... Some of that is good gunk! No stress. I’ve been tinkering like a mofo this week though 😂 Scary Rider, Jewbacca and TheoG 3
tubed Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 35 minutes ago, Jewbacca said: Dunno.... I have hubs which have done upwards of 20000km and never undergone any severe maintenance. My old Hope SS hub was probably pulled apart once in roughly 7 years. This included riding some helluva inhospitable terrain in some dire conditions, swimming in the baviaans and Mordor on Freedom Challenge, etc... I reckon the more you tinker, the more you need to tinker. You guys obsessed with always cleaning, polishing and degreasing your bikes always seem to be the ones with problems. If the bearings feel notchy, replace them. There is a natural residue and build up of gunk that works in your favour. If you are always stripping that away you are creating problems. Anyway, I am currently guilty of my favourite 'pool of 1' peer review study. Without any scientific proof and purely based on anecdotal evidence and 100% bias, I believe if you clean your bike and degrease everything too often you are going to wear through your kit faster than if you just rinsed things off and cleaned things reasonably. Agree with this - there is a fine line between ignoring an obviously degrading part/ problem which will manifest if it doesn't get attention and the need always to always be fiddling. Best example was a good rider, and bike industry guy (always fiddling) - decides on Freedom Challenge near Baviaans to tighten more, an already perfectly tight quick release, which he strips by overtightening and then spends a day waiting for a new one from PE and another day riding like a madman to catch his mates. Bike shops love these guys...... Jewbacca and ChrisF 2
guidodg Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 17 minutes ago, Jewbacca said: I wasn't aiming at you specifically. More the comment about how hubs need regular maintenance and how some guys obsess about using paraffin and other degreasers to scrub out their chain and cassette etc... Some of that is good gunk! hence why I shower once a week😁 The Ouzo, ChrisF, Jewbacca and 1 other 4
Steady Spin Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 True story. Don’t fix what isn’t broken. ChrisF 1
TheoG Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 46 minutes ago, Steady Spin said: No microspline driver available for my hub unfortunately. Then get a DT Swiss Star ratchet hub .... 🙈😂
Steady Spin Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, TheoG said: Then get a DT Swiss Star ratchet hub .... 🙈😂 I’m living my best shifting life with the XTR mech and SRAM everything else at the moment. 😂 Definitely sticking to the combo. ChrisF and TheoG 1 1
Steady Spin Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 Wheel is back at the shop. I can’t bother with this anymore. Let someone else figure it out. Shop suspects the freehub is the problem. They will reset the spring tension and relube it. My question… why would a freehub only last 6000km or is that the norm? Lyne components high engagement unit. I really miss my Hope hubs.
love2fly Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 Is it not possibly the disc rotor as the wheel flexexs under pedalling
Steady Spin Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, love2fly said: Is it not possibly the disc rotor as the wheel flexexs under pedalling Not impossible but it would be more frequent and only under load. I get the noise even under light loads. Not sure it would make such a loud noise. What would it get caught on? Rubbing noise would be more likely.
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