What is the PPA doing?

[carbon29er]

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My opinion, the PPA should be lobbying harder to get some fun rides over chappies etc.. the runners do it.

I'm a firm believer that, when the "ban" on races over OKW and Main Rd was introduced, the PPA paid hierarchy then thought, brilliant, less work for us as traffic has banned road races in the southern suburbs.  I think all along traffic was merely angling for more cash to allow the race.

 

From my understanding, there was not one approach or appeal to traffic or city at the time, it was just accepted and passed on to the committee as fact.

 

Then after a few years of no rides and some of the locals started revolting and getting noisy, a traffic communique was rolled out to justify the no race situation.  This was around the AGM in 2015. If I was a betting man I would say that was accepted as gospel and no communication was entered into with city and traffic.  If I am wrong it will be easy to show the paper trail of correspondence.

 

It was at the 2015 AGM when the chairman made quite a few commitments to the road racing calendar. 17 months later how many of them have been realised? The double half one huuuuuuuundred and eiiiiigggghty?

 

Now a veiled threat to reduce the number as they are not supported and demand is over stated.

 

Talk about being out of touch.

[Pure Savage]

What the hell is WP Cycling doing in Alberton?

You thinking of the deep souf

 

 

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[Pure Savage]

I'm a firm believer that, when the "ban" on races over OKW and Main Rd was introduced, the PPA paid hierarchy then thought, brilliant, less work for us as traffic has banned road races in the southern suburbs. I think all along traffic was merely angling for more cash to allow the race.

 

From my understanding, there was not one approach or appeal to traffic or city at the time, it was just accepted and passed on to the committee as fact.

 

Then after a few years of no rides and some of the locals started revolting and getting noisy, a traffic communique was rolled out to justify the no race situation. This was around the AGM in 2015. If I was a betting man I would say that was accepted as gospel and no communication was entered into with city and traffic. If I am wrong it will be easy to show the paper trail of correspondence.

 

It was at the 2015 AGM when the chairman made quite a few commitments to the road racing calendar. 17 months later how many of them have been realised? The double half one huuuuuuuundred and eiiiiigggghty?

 

Now a veiled threat to reduce the number as they are not supported and demand is over stated.

 

Talk about being out of touch.

Agree with all of this!

 

 

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[Skubarra]

My point still stand - mtb'ers do this all the time, roadies have to drive further than 10km to an event they will give you a list of excuses.

 

If we opt for coffee rides over events for whatever good reasons we can't only point fingers at PPA.

 

Just to be clear, I realise that in your situation to drive out for races in the country side is not practical so my rant is not really aimed at you.

 

I am just a bit frustrated that here we are again, moaning the same old moan at PPA, when there are people out there doing something about this who can be better supported by the roadie community. We need to adapt & make a few sacrifices to get road cycling growing again.

['Dale]

Agree with all of this!

 

 

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[DJR]

Agree with all of this!

 

 

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So do I

[Tubehunter]

There's not enough singletrack in the road races, Skubarra

 

I was wondering when the day that Dale the eternal roadie would muster some dirty fat wheeled biking talk and it seems that day has finally arrived! 10 years of hub time and that's the first I've ever seen. Clearly you are enjoying that Scalpel!!!! 

 

Apologies! As you were...

['Dale]

I was wondering when the day that Dale the eternal roadie would muster some dirty fat wheeled biking talk and it seems that day has finally arrived! 10 years of hub time and that's the first I've ever seen. Clearly you are enjoying that Scalpel!!!!

 

Apologies! As you were...

 

Don't believe everything you read on the Internet now hey... ????

[Pure Savage]

When Wayne Roberts hosted the lights by linea series of crits and races, we managed to attend almost all of those as they were accessible and fun.

 

We dont need long fun rides, just something more interesting than a coffee ride. Airfields, city centres, industrial areas etc. If a private individual could organise it, how could the mighty PPA not be able to do so? Those events were pulling 150+ riders per event. People do come when you create an event. 

 

I am sorry, but putting the Maluti 180 on their may as well be in France.

[City Cycling Athletic Club]

When Wayne Roberts hosted the lights by linea series of crits and races, we managed to attend almost all of those as they were accessible and fun.

 

We dont need long fun rides, just something more interesting than a coffee ride. Airfields, city centres, industrial areas etc. If a private individual could organise it, how could the mighty PPA not be able to do so? Those events were pulling 150+ riders per event. People do come when you create an event. 

 

I am sorry, but putting the Maluti 180 on their may as well be in France.

even a simple crit around an industrial site entails a lot of hard work - event permit, toilets, race officials, traffic officials and the biggest headache - marshals is just the start. on the day registration , traffic cones , flags , bibs. then the race - results etc etc etc - big stress. anyone out there interested in putting on an event? PM me.

[Slowbee]

I was wondering when the day that Dale the eternal roadie would muster some dirty fat wheeled biking talk and it seems that day has finally arrived! 10 years of hub time and that's the first I've ever seen. Clearly you are enjoying that Scalpel!!!! 

 

Apologies! As you were...

like you say 10 years !! At least. Screen grab in case ....

 

Who would have thought. The PPA drove Dale to the mountains ....... in the dirt.

[Pure Savage]

even a simple crit around an industrial site entails a lot of hard work - event permit, toilets, race officials, traffic officials and the biggest headache - marshals is just the start. on the day registration , traffic cones , flags , bibs. then the race - results etc etc etc - big stress. anyone out there interested in putting on an event? PM me.

Totally agreed! I see how much dedication it takes from the WPCA and the LBL crew to pull off even the smaller events.

 

Will take you up on the PM this year still!

[Wannabe]

Saw this morning a few ride wider of the rider boards against lapposts in durbanville(near The Rosegarden) Could not take photos as I was driving

 

 

Kept a beady eye out for them this morning. Had to look good and hard (these old eyes are not what they used to be) and Lo and Behold, almost three meters up, right above another poster of the same size (the "normal" lamp poster size) there was a PPA poster with some message on it that I could not make out (these old eyes, you see  )

 

So what am I trying to say?

Unless you are specifically looking for them, or just happen to be stationary and have nothing better to do than to read lamppost posters, you will not even know they are there.

Must admit that for the whole section of Durban road past the Rose Gardens, every lamppost has got a PPA poster on.

Will see if I can go at a slower speed tomorrow morning and take a photo of one poster.

[LeoKnight]

If it was spread out over longer area I think it might have even bigger impact, but every change start with a small step.

[allez]

Cant they put their gazebo up at busy robot intersections on a saturday morning to raise awareness? Not sure if this is done. Maybe 1hr at a spot at a time. For me that will be better then putting it up on Chappies every weekend where the cars by now know that there is cyclists.

[Skubarra]

 

We dont need long fun rides, just something more interesting than a coffee ride. Airfields, city centres, industrial areas etc. If a private individual could organise it, how could the mighty PPA not be able to do so? Those events were pulling 150+ riders per event. People do come when you create an event. 

 

What is very apparent is that the system for funrides that worked for many years is now broken & obsolete and we are not adapting with the times. It is easy & convenient to put all the blame on PPA but the other big problem imo is that many of the schools & charities who in the past organised funrides to raise money have found easier ways to raise money so its easy to see why events are dropping off the calender.

 

I think all parties including us cyclists need to make a bit of a mind shift (like you say - we don't just need more funrides) and find something sustainable. From where I stand the PPA is a bit slow in making this mind shift and for once WP Cycling is leading the way with the type of events they are hosting. Would love to see WP Cycling & PPA working together.