Wind in the Willows Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Hey guys, Here's the deal: I want to know how much you would pay for this 2011 Rocky Mountain Element 30msl. Let's say the condition is very good (see ad pics). Throw a figure out, or provide a range: highest and lowest amount depending on whatever your criteria are. The ad has everything you need to know. 26" lovers and haters are ALL WELCOME. Throw the offer on the ground or press it tightly to your bosom and sing sweet songs of longing. Thanks for your input.
Duane_Bosch Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 I think it's dodgy to expect people on this forum to do your haggling for you.
popcorn_skollie Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 I know someone very interested in this very bike. So I'd say you don't have too many bargaining chips.
Hairy Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 his price looks fair ... but talk to the guy and see if you can find a middle ground ... if not, walk away and leave the bike to someone who will be happy to pay that for the bike, and will appreciate what they are buying. just remember, as a buyer, no one is forcing you to buy the bike, so the seller is free to ask what he or she likes.
AdamA Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 I have the same frame (50msl) and built a bike to similar Spec with less than 500km on it. I wouldn't let it go for under R17 000. R15000 is a bargain if the bike is in Excellent condition. And apparently those frames can take 27.5" wheels
Grease_Monkey Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 With that spec, 3x SLX front shifter, reba fork, a Fox float which is widely criticized for damping qualities, and 26er, I would not pay more than about 8k. If you can put 27.5 wheels in there, then it is a completely different story, maybe 11k... I am by no means an expert in the value of bikes, and my valuation may not be what it is worth, but that is where I would be on this deal. This is just based on my experience in selling my old bikes - but then I am impatient and tend to take the first offer that comes along At the end of the day the bike is worth what someone will pay - and someone will come along at some point and pay more than the numbers I mentioned above, so it depends how desperate or impatient the seller is. My 2c (and this is not directed at the seller of this bike): People are delusional about the second hand values of their bikes. Have seen many advertising bikes at 90% of their new value. My general rule - In general I won't pay more than 60% of retail for a second hand item.
Sparki 1 Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 I know someone very interested in this very bike. So I'd say you don't have too many bargaining chips.is the OP maybe not the same "someone"?
popcorn_skollie Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 is the OP maybe not the same "someone"? Peter Rabbit? No. Not him.
Headshot Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Hahahah R8k for that would be a total bargain. A friend has one - converted to 650b. Clearance at the back is an issue though and a new fork would be required. Its a light frame and the extra travel up front makes it a bit of a trail bike. Forget the wheel size, (which is the last thing you should worry about anyway) and ask yourself what R15k gets you at the bike shop? Carbon: No Light weight: No, Quality Mavic wheels: No, Decent lightweight suspension: No .... If you don't like the answers then go get a Titan Sonic and see how you like that piece of weighty spindly wheeled cheapness. In my mind there is no comparison.
Hairy Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 oh wait ... I see it is a 26'er ... the seller should be paying you to take it away then ........
popcorn_skollie Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Hahahah R8k for that would be a total bargain. A friend has one - converted to 650b. Clearance at the back is an issue though and a new fork would be required. Its a light frame and the extra travel up front makes it a bit of a trail bike. Forget the wheel size, (which is the last thing you should worry about anyway) and ask yourself what R15k gets you at the bike shop? Carbon: No Light weight: No, Quality Mavic wheels: No, Decent lightweight suspension: No .... If you don't like the answers then go get a Titan Sonic and see how you like that piece of weighty spindly wheeled cheapness. In my mind there is no comparison. I'm not discussing my opinion on its value. That's between the seller and buyer. Just thought I'd point out that the msl is ever so slightly slacker than the 100mm Element. It has 120 squish in the back too. Also those Elements are pretty low bikes. Even by today's standards. Definitely some trail spirit for such a racy sled. Light, fast and squishy. Should be tons of fun in the dirt. Are those wheels strictly a propriety spokes and nipples affair?
AdamA Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 My 2c (and this is not directed at the seller of this bike): People are delusional about the second hand values of their bikes. Have seen many advertising bikes at 90% of their new value. My general rule - In general I won't pay more than 60% of retail for a second hand item. According to PinkBike the original price was $3500, which makes R15000 less than 45%. and that's with a RS Recon Silver and DT Swiss wheels http://www.pinkbike.com/product/rocky-mountain/2011-Element-30-MSL/ I like HeadShot's Comment "ask yourself what R15k gets you at the bike shop?" or Seccond hand on BikeHub.... that's the real comparison!
Headshot Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 This is what R30k gets you from Titan. https://www.bikehub.co.za/features/_/gear/reviews/review-titan-sonic-pro-r5787..
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 This is what R30k gets you from Titan. https://www.bikehub.co.za/features/_/gear/reviews/review-titan-sonic-pro-r5787..neeeee donkey. If I wanted a Raleigh Marathon I'd have bought one 7 years ago.
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