droo Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Hahah.. Skrewdrivers, stanly knives...YOh SH*T what did I do...Stanly knife on anodiszing freaks me out completely. Perhaps I shouldnt have mentioned it at all. Its what I do using an appropriate tool, but like you said, perhaps best not to. Rather drag your nails down a blackboard or chew on some wool...
T-Bob Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Hahah.. Skrewdrivers, stanly knives...YOh SH*T what did I do...Stanly knife on anodiszing freaks me out completely. I'm saying any choice of those instruments makes the user an inappropriate tool.
Mojoman Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 My screwdriver comment was tongue in cheek..
Skylark Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 My screwdriver comment was tongue in cheek.. Considering what I've seen people do it's a plausible albeit dubious choice..
Mojoman Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 Considering what I've seen people do it's a plausible albeit dubious choice..Crazy hey...I just use a bit of hardened steel injector pin to dig around in there..... Any scratches I just buff out with coarse cutting paste....
Tankman Posted September 22, 2017 Author Posted September 22, 2017 @Tankman What is your opinion on SKF seals? Worth the investment? If you are a Fox owner, you might have noticed something on your dustwipers, especially the newer ones: To me, they look the same and they feel the same. Bar the green colour of the SFK one. The question should rather be, would SKF manufacture seals for Fox and then try and sell something "superior" on their own? (the Fox and SFK wipers for Fox, cost the same) I would be pretty peed off if I was Fox. If you are a Rock Shox owner, yea they are definitely not the same. Are they better, I dont know, havent sold enough of them to really know.The price point normally swings the client back to the original Rock Shox product. The SFK sells for around R600, where the Rock Shox sells for R235. You can theoretically replace Rock Shox wipers (almost) 3 times for the price of one set of SFK wipers. Will one set of SFK wipers outlast 3 sets of Rock Shox wipers? I dont know, havent tried!
Tankman Posted September 22, 2017 Author Posted September 22, 2017 SKF not SFK as above, sorry a bit dyslectic at times!
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 If you are a Fox owner, you might have noticed something on your dustwipers, especially the newer ones: DSC_4961-33.jpg DSC_4956-1.jpg To me, they look the same and they feel the same. Bar the green colour of the SFK one. The question should rather be, would SKF manufacture seals for Fox and then try and sell something "superior" on their own? (the Fox and SFK wipers for Fox, cost the same) I would be pretty peed off if I was Fox. If you are a Rock Shox owner, yea they are definitely not the same. Are they better, I dont know, havent sold enough of them to really know.The price point normally swings the client back to the original Rock Shox product. The SFK sells for around R600, where the Rock Shox sells for R235. You can theoretically replace Rock Shox wipers (almost) 3 times for the price of one set of SFK wipers. Will one set of SFK wipers outlast 3 sets of Rock Shox wipers? I dont know, havent tried!Doesn't matter if it comes from the same factory. Fox one was most likely manufactured to hit a certain cost per item, using different processes and materials. Could be a completely different product altogether to the ones that SKF sell themselves. Tolerances, material, processes... All factors in the cost per unit.
Tankman Posted September 22, 2017 Author Posted September 22, 2017 Doesn't matter if it comes from the same factory. Fox one was most likely manufactured to hit a certain cost per item, using different processes and materials. Could be a completely different product altogether to the ones that SKF sell themselves. Tolerances, material, processes... All factors in the cost per unit. The Fox and SKF's are on our the shelf at the same retail price... but I could be, different but the same.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 The Fox and SKF's are on our the shelf at the same retail price... but I could be, different but the same.Fox is client. Fox says can you make this for X. SKF says yes, it'll have these characteristics and this material and these finishes. If you want tighter tolerances or better materials it'll cost you Y. That's the cost per unit I'm referring to. Ie how much it costs to manufacture.
Rigardt@Scott Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 I feel like this thread is prime Friday material
Bos Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 Fox is client. Fox says can you make this for X. SKF says yes, it'll have these characteristics and this material and these finishes. If you want tighter tolerances or better materials it'll cost you Y. That's the cost per unit I'm referring to. Ie how much it costs to manufacture.Don't want to split hairs here and I haven't actually seen them up close but it is Friday..In my experience I can't imagine a "A list company" purposely putting out an inferior product. Its in their best interest to make the best quality product every time. Just an opinion though. Maybe they had lots of old stock at the factory when fox changed suppliers or changed the product now they are selling them aftermarket. A question to the experts: Is it just me or did the fox forks get stanchion damage easier than RS or is it purely subjective?
droo Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 A question to the experts: Is it just me or did the fox forks get stanchion damage easier than RS or is it purely subjective? Yes. It's a trade off between plushness and durability. RS aren't as plush but last forever, Fox need far more frequent servicing to keep the coating where it should be.
Jewbacca Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 Every time this headline pops up in the forums I sing it to the tune of 'How deep is your Love' by the Bee Gees.... eish...
Simon Kolin Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 Don't want to split hairs here and I haven't actually seen them up close but it is Friday..In my experience I can't imagine a "A list company" purposely putting out an inferior product. Its in their best interest to make the best quality product every time. Just an opinion though. Maybe they had lots of old stock at the factory when fox changed suppliers or changed the product now they are selling them aftermarket. A question to the experts: Is it just me or did the fox forks get stanchion damage easier than RS or is it purely subjective?Have a listen to this podcast. https://cyclingtips.com/2016/09/cyclingtips-podcast-episode-12-the-magic-and-mystery-behind-bicycle-specs/ "It’s a fascinating peek behind the curtain at a process most of us take for granted, and one that you’re unlikely to look upon the same way once you’ve sat down for a listen."
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