Yet another tragic loss.

[Patchelicious]

When we were involved in a hit and run, when the cops found the car hidden in the attempted murderers garage, a piece of my riding partners bibs were still stuck in the smashed side view mirror of his car.

What ended up happening to him. Both on the record, and off the record?

[nickc]

What is coming to light is that if you hit and kill someone while drunk, it's far better to run away and hand yourself over a few days after the fact. 

 

 

Zero tolerance for alcohol and harsher punishment for hit and runs should be implemented. 

 

 

Its a much lighter sentence for not stopping at the scene of an accident than found guilty of drunk driving and culpable homicide.

 

That is why they all flee  GRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[mecheng89]

Lets hope justice is served. Glad they found the coward.

Had so many other words to use to describe this person but coward was the nicest word that would avoid a ban.

Harsh word to use IMHO. I don't know the feeling that will consume me if I drive over someone, but it's either run for the hills or stop my car and check on the person I just run over. I completely understand his/her reaction. We need to get his/her side of the story too. 

 

But I believe justice will be served. Horrible mistake was made. 

[Escapee..]

Its a much lighter sentence for not stopping at the scene of an accident than found guilty of drunk driving and culpable homicide.

 

That is why they all flee  GRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

Dont know if they all flee because of that

 

 

Harsh word to use IMHO. I don't know the feeling that will consume me if I drive over someone, but it's either run for the hills or stop my car and check on the person I just run over. I completely understand his/her reaction. We need to get his/her side of the story too. 

 

But I believe justice will be served. Horrible mistake was made. 

 

 

This 

[EmJayZA]

Harsh word to use IMHO. I don't know the feeling that will consume me if I drive over someone, but it's either run for the hills or stop my car and check on the person I just run over. I completely understand his/her reaction. We need to get his/her side of the story too. 

 

But I believe justice will be served. Horrible mistake was made. 

 

No matter the circumstances when hitting someone, you have a duty to stop and render assistance. Only a callous human being will hurt someone and then run away. There is zero room for sympathy or understanding. He will eventually get over it and move on. Nino's kids, wife and family will live with this for the rest of their lives. 

[Vetseun]

What ended up happening to him. Both on the record, and off the record?

He made a 50k settlement offer on the civil claim. Was accepted.

The criminal case was withdrawn in December due to his advanced age.

[Headshot]

The sentences  for say culpable homicide as well as driving under the influence will be higher in total because they are two separate offences. But, sentences may also run concurrently and no extra time would in fact be served for the second offence.

 

However, in a case like this, there is nothing stopping the state using the hit and run nature of the accident as an aggravating factor which could lead to a higher sentence for culpable homicide and in fact a heavier punishment for the accused.

[Escapee..]

I was thinking along the lines of maybe he panicked and just got out of there.

 

I dont think its totally a crazy idea and I dont think you are a bad person for driving away. We are all human and we all make mistakes.  I haven't been in a situation like that so I dont know how I would react

 

BUT

 

Surely when you get home and think about what just happened you come to your senses and head to the nearest police station?

[Sepia]

I'm glad to see that they've found somebody.

Hopefully we'll see this get punished accordingly.

Bet my bottom dollar this little cowardly shyte will walk.

Ref:  All other bike/vehicle accidents and a precedence has been set.....unfortunately.

[Tristand]

What is coming to light is that if you hit and kill someone while drunk, it's far better to run away and hand yourself over a few days after the fact. 

 

 

Zero tolerance for alcohol and harsher punishment for hit and runs should be implemented. 

 

Maybe there are witnesses that he was drinking. Is a lab blood level the only acceptable evidence for prosecuting someone for drinking and driving?

[Danger Dassie]

No matter the circumstances when hitting someone, you have a duty to stop and render assistance. Only a callous human being will hurt someone and then run away. There is zero room for sympathy or understanding. He will eventually get over it and move on. Nino's kids, wife and family will live with this for the rest of their lives. 

 

Can agree with this, it doesn't necessarily make the guy evil. But to flee a scene like that is a conscious cowardly act and indicative of a bad attitude. Wether to was under the influence, panic or whatever. 

The fact that it never turned itself in after the fact compounds the severity. In all likelihood we'll see this young adult (he is not a kid) try and make a defence in blaming Nino and attempting to deflect responsibility. Further compounding the above. 

It's the same script that we've seen play out every time in cases like this, almost without fail.

 

 

[Aluman]

Bet my bottom dollar this little cowardly shyte will walk.

Ref:  All other bike/vehicle accidents and a precedence has been set.....unfortunately.

 

As a regular cyclist on Hendrik Potgieter  on Saturday and Sunday mornings I see reckless driving and speeding by cars and motorcycles by the dozen but yet no speed cameras and no or very little traffic cops in attendance.

 

The yellow line and lane demarcations have totally disappeared in some sections. Seems there is no will to address traffic law enforcement. Not just to make it cycle safe but safe for all road users.

[Bateleur1]

The reasons for leaving the scene of an accident vary but the sentence is pretty much the same and in my opinion to lenient.

 

Shortly after arriving in Germany I noticed on the news that they were developing quite a problem with drag racing in the cities (similar to the problems we had in Pretoria Voortrekker road).  There were some serious accidents and some fatalities especially wrt to pedestrians.  The culprits were caught and quickly sentenced but at worst they got culpable homicide sentences which was pretty lenient.  It did not take long before government approved that if you killed someone due to drag racing you get charged with murder.  Simple reasoning is that maybe it was an accident when killing the person but it was not an accident starting the race in which someone can get killed.  Within a year the first person was convicted of murder.  I have not heard anything on the news about drag racing since.

 

I said it here before but in my mind the only way of dealing with this is leaving the scene of an accident and the person dies you should get charged with murder as you could have saved his life by phoning for help.

[EmJayZA]

Maybe there are witnesses that he was drinking. Is a lab blood level the only acceptable evidence for prosecuting someone for drinking and driving?

 

This is the thing. Courts don't seem to rely much witness testimony in drunken driving cases. We are still waiting for a sentence in the case where Richard da Silva and Jarred Dwyer were killed in KZN by a speeding and (allegedly) drunk Omesh Ramnarain. When that case finally concludes, maybe we will have a little more understanding of the process. Unless someone experienced in criminal proceedings such as these can give some feedback.

[Bateleur1]

This is the thing. Courts don't seem to rely much witness testimony in drunken driving cases. We are still waiting for a sentence in the case where Richard da Silva and Jarred Dwyer were killed in KZN by a speeding and (allegedly) drunk Omesh Ramnarain. When that case finally concludes, maybe we will have a little more understanding of the process. Unless someone experienced in criminal proceedings such as these can give some feedback.

 

Lab results or bust. Even if witnesses can say he drank 10 beers.  Without a lab result which indicate that he was over the limit you have nothing wrt to driving under the influence.

[Sepia]

Lab results or bust. Even if witnesses can say he drank 10 beers.  Without a lab result which indicate that he was over the limit you have nothing wrt to driving under the influence.

Our cops don't know how to take this blood sample, when and if.

Lawyers cut holes in it every, every time.

 

I just wish it could be enforced and something done.

This drunken shyte in Durban who hit the two riders...perfect example.

 

Guilty until they can prove themselves innocent when it come to runaway cases.