DieselnDust Posted December 3, 2021 Share 14 hours ago, ChrisF said: Best watch your vocabulary around here .... best avoid coffee shops ..... Also some interesting Dutch translations .... sit on den ___ ....simply means sit on your butt. kontje..? ChrisF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballingCyclist Posted December 9, 2021 Share UCI refuses Qhubeka NextHash a WorldTour licence for 2022 | Cyclingnews I guess that's that then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted December 9, 2021 Share Ah well - it was fun while it lasted. Vetplant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted December 9, 2021 Share 24 minutes ago, FootballingCyclist said: UCI refuses Qhubeka NextHash a WorldTour licence for 2022 | Cyclingnews I guess that's that then... if you can't read these articles without subscribing. the work around: open in incognito tab well that sucks, i guess pro conti is an option. Edited December 9, 2021 by Shebeen DieselnDust and FootballingCyclist 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted December 9, 2021 Share option? Its the only course. This result is inevitable without results / points. Sentiment only gets your so far and no further Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveno7 Posted December 9, 2021 Share 1 hour ago, FootballingCyclist said: UCI refuses Qhubeka NextHash a WorldTour licence for 2022 | Cyclingnews I guess that's that then... this is a sad day for African cycling to a large degree...in their previous guise as MTM ...Remembering seeing the team doing two runs over Bainskloof...with Impey riding etc but the happiness of one of their dropped riders in the peloton...smiling and waving at my daughter...will miss them.. the last few years have been a struggle but they have given great memories ...great memories on the Tour et al... FootballingCyclist, Shebeen and Vetplant 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetplant Posted December 9, 2021 Share 3 minutes ago, daveno7 said: this is a sad day for African cycling to a large degree...in their previous guise as MTM ...Remembering seeing the team doing two runs over Bainskloof...with Impey riding etc but the happiness of one of their dropped riders in the peloton...smiling and waving at my daughter...will miss them.. the last few years have been a struggle but they have given great memories ...great memories on the Tour et al... I will always cherish those final years in the MTN Qhubeka guise. Stevo winning on Mandela Day was amazing. Was fun while it lasted. DieselnDust, Eldron and FootballingCyclist 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted December 9, 2021 Share Ja nee, that's life for you....the world tour could really do with more teams that come from places other than the traditional euro teams. I wonder how long it will take before there is another "African" team up there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted December 9, 2021 Share 26 minutes ago, SwissVan said: Ja nee, that's life for you....the world tour could really do with more teams that come from places other than the traditional euro teams. I wonder how long it will take before there is another "African" team up there.... I am guessing never. DieselnDust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yyyy Posted December 9, 2021 Share As sad as I am to see this happen, TQNH didnt have much African talent in their squad. It was basically RJvR and NicD. But does improving and developing cycling across the continent need a African WT team? The South Americans seem to do just fine without a WT team. Whats really holding back the continent of producing top tier riders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted December 9, 2021 Share 41 minutes ago, YaseenEnos said: As sad as I am to see this happen, TQNH didnt have much African talent in their squad. It was basically RJvR and NicD. But does improving and developing cycling across the continent need a African WT team? The South Americans seem to do just fine without a WT team. Whats really holding back the continent of producing top tier riders. Movistar has been signing top spanish riders from SAmerica for years, plays a huge role. Tour de France 1988. there was a colombian on the podium much longer term project and pathway opened there. randomly chose the 1995 TdF startlist, look who's in #6 in terms of riders on the startline Edited December 9, 2021 by Shebeen Yyyy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted December 9, 2021 Share 2 hours ago, Vetplant said: I will always cherish those final years in the MTN Qhubeka guise. Stevo winning on Mandela Day was amazing. Was fun while it lasted. goosebumps Vetplant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballingCyclist Posted December 9, 2021 Share 1 hour ago, Pure Savage said: I am guessing never. I thought that was the long term aim for Savage? Sid the Sloth, ChrisF, DieselnDust and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballingCyclist Posted December 9, 2021 Share 1 hour ago, YaseenEnos said: As sad as I am to see this happen, TQNH didnt have much African talent in their squad. It was basically RJvR and NicD. But does improving and developing cycling across the continent need a African WT team? The South Americans seem to do just fine without a WT team. Whats really holding back the continent of producing top tier riders. Well there are many factors I believe, money for one, for riders to be noticed they need to go ride and race in Europe, unfortunately these trips are more often than not self funded and the rand to pound/euro doesn't help their cause. Another thing to note is SA is pan flat compared to the climbs in Europe which also doesn't help local riders when/if they do go over, So it goes back to them having to be based there to essentially acclimatize etc. Those are just 2 examples which make it difficult I believe for SA riders currently. Sid the Sloth, Yyyy and DieselnDust 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted December 9, 2021 Share 27 minutes ago, Shebeen said: Movistar has been signing top spanish South American riders from SAmerica for years, plays a huge role. Tour de France 1988. there was a colombian on the podium much longer term project and pathway opened there. randomly chose the 1995 TdF startlist, look who's in #6 in terms of riders on the startline Some corrections above and also the South American presence has nothing to do with Movistar as many teams have been signing South American riders for years. It all started with Martin Cochise Rodriguez back in the 60's. He won the Vuelta de Colombia 4 times if memory serves. He was also the first South American to tackle the tour De France in 1975. The first professional Columbian team was Varta - Cafe De Colombia - Mavic in 1985, a coffee company. Riders on this team were often viewed as climbing specialists. Guys like Luis 'Luco" Herrera and Fabio Para animated the mountain stages. It took another 35years before Egan Benal won the tour De France. bare in mind the Colombian journey to this win, started way back then. The USA's first team into the TDF was Team 7Eleven back in 1986, although Greg Lemond had competed in the TDF since 1984 (then on Team Renault). Lemond still holds the only USA winners titles and Discovery Channel was the first of only 4 USA team wins at the TDF. South Africa has fielded Team BarlowWorld and then Qhuebeka in all its various gises. I think Robbie Hunter is the only SA winner of a stage on an SA team? Impey has won but for an Aussie Team? The stats are against an African team from delivering. European sponsors are needed and they want European faces to sell their products, just like Colombian Sponsors wanted Colombian riders to be the face of their products but eventually also had to use European riders to to deliver the faces that the European markets could identify with. The world has moved on a little since then but only just a little Frosty and Yyyy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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