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I think you made Robbie feel like less of a man, so he had his buttons pushed and reacted. I believe the term used these days is "triggered" . 

 

Let me paraphrase what your initial post was on about, in part, at least in my mind, namely, the rampant consumerism that we find in every sphere of modern life, from phones to cars to bikes. 

 

Back in the day, things moved far more slowly - we saw the latest trends in a movie or a monthly magazine. These days everything from product cycles to news move in step with the information age. Bikes have model years like cars, phones seem to come out every 6  months or so... etc etc. Fact is we actually don't need any of these things to be the newest and most modern and can make do with far less. However, human nature dictates that a percentage of us will consume whatever is pushed our way just to have the latest thing/impress our friends/have the placebo of believing those new wheels will make us faster etc. Amongst all the marketing nonsense, however, is some genuine innovation and improvement in the equipment...

 

Take the tyre thing. Wider is better in my experience (up to a point) - just add 25 or 28mm tyres to an old road bike and voila. I rode a CTCT on an ancient Cannondale with 19mm tyres. Awful. My 10 year old 9 Speed Raleigh with 25mm tyres is so much more comfortable and I feel far less beaten up after a long ride, even untrained. Then again, my best time in the CTCT was on a very heavy high tensile framed road bike with down tube shifters. It looked old even back in 1999 but I managed to beat tens of thousands of people on fancier bikes. 

 

At the end of the day, within certain limits, its not about the bike at all is it. And should we care that some people want the latest and greatest carbon lay up for more comfort and fatter tyres and, and, and. Just smile as you pass them on your steel/ali 9 speed and enjoy your ride.

 

OMG, someone with a well thought out, reasoned response - flog him!

 

You can't be so reasonable on the hub...  :whistling:

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Some advice - just ask admin to delete this thread and be done with it...

No..... Those who don't like my post can either comment constructively, send me a death threat or move on to the next post.
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I think you made Robbie feel like less of a man, so he had his buttons pushed and reacted. I believe the term used these days is "triggered" .

 

Let me paraphrase what your initial post was on about, in part, at least in my mind, namely, the rampant consumerism that we find in every sphere of modern life, from phones to cars to bikes.

 

Back in the day, things moved far more slowly - we saw the latest trends in a movie or a monthly magazine. These days everything from product cycles to news move in step with the information age. Bikes have model years like cars, phones seem to come out every 6 months or so... etc etc. Fact is we actually don't need any of these things to be the newest and most modern and can make do with far less. However, human nature dictates that a percentage of us will consume whatever is pushed our way just to have the latest thing/impress our friends/have the placebo of believing those new wheels will make us faster etc. Amongst all the marketing nonsense, however, is some genuine innovation and improvement in the equipment...

 

Take the tyre thing. Wider is better in my experience (up to a point) - just add 25 or 28mm tyres to an old road bike and voila. I rode a CTCT on an ancient Cannondale with 19mm tyres. Awful. My 10 year old 9 Speed Raleigh with 25mm tyres is so much more comfortable and I feel far less beaten up after a long ride, even untrained. Then again, my best time in the CTCT was on a very heavy high tensile framed road bike with down tube shifters. It looked old even back in 1999 but I managed to beat tens of thousands of people on fancier bikes.

 

At the end of the day, within certain limits, its not about the bike at all is it. And should we care that some people want the latest and greatest carbon lay up for more comfort and fatter tyres and, and, and. Just smile as you pass them on your steel/ali 9 speed and enjoy your ride.

To a certain extent, you have interpreted my post correctly.

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I think you made Robbie feel like less of a man, so he had his buttons pushed and reacted. I believe the term used these days is "triggered" . 

 

Let me paraphrase what your initial post was on about, in part, at least in my mind, namely, the rampant consumerism that we find in every sphere of modern life, from phones to cars to bikes. 

 

Back in the day, things moved far more slowly - we saw the latest trends in a movie or a monthly magazine. These days everything from product cycles to news move in step with the information age. Bikes have model years like cars, phones seem to come out every 6  months or so... etc etc. Fact is we actually don't need any of these things to be the newest and most modern and can make do with far less. However, human nature dictates that a percentage of us will consume whatever is pushed our way just to have the latest thing/impress our friends/have the placebo of believing those new wheels will make us faster etc. Amongst all the marketing nonsense, however, is some genuine innovation and improvement in the equipment...

 

Take the tyre thing. Wider is better in my experience (up to a point) - just add 25 or 28mm tyres to an old road bike and voila. I rode a CTCT on an ancient Cannondale with 19mm tyres. Awful. My 10 year old 9 Speed Raleigh with 25mm tyres is so much more comfortable and I feel far less beaten up after a long ride, even untrained. Then again, my best time in the CTCT was on a very heavy high tensile framed road bike with down tube shifters. It looked old even back in 1999 but I managed to beat tens of thousands of people on fancier bikes. 

 

At the end of the day, within certain limits, its not about the bike at all is it. And should we care that some people want the latest and greatest carbon lay up for more comfort and fatter tyres and, and, and. Just smile as you pass them on your steel/ali 9 speed and enjoy your ride.

sounds like someone is woke. ^_^

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sounds like someone is woke. ^_^

"woke"

 

lawdy lawd lawd the size of the cramp that this word gives me is like the last  extra-hot bunny served at a Point Road cafe at 03h17 on the Friday of a long weekend, and they have run out of long life milk, so you wash it down with Iron Brew.  THAT much of a cramp

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"woke"

 

lawdy lawd lawd the size of the cramp that this word gives me is like the last  extra-hot bunny served at a Point Road cafe at 03h17 on the Friday of a long weekend, and they have run out of long life milk, so you wash it down with Iron Brew.  THAT much of a cramp

 

You can afford Iron Brew? Talk about white privilege!

 

You're lit af!

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"woke"

 

lawdy lawd lawd the size of the cramp that this word gives me is like the last  extra-hot bunny served at a Point Road cafe at 03h17 on the Friday of a long weekend, and they have run out of long life milk, so you wash it down with Iron Brew.  THAT much of a cramp

Triggered much? 

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Never used GPS on my bike, I've also never been lost.

 

So for me to cough up all that money for a GPS so I don't get lost would be a waste of my money.

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