The Veganism Thread

[Rocket-Boy]

Beyond burgers are good, but I fear you will ruin them with vegan cheese. Maybe try the cheese separately first.

Vegan cheese is nasty stuff. I wouldnt recommend trying it "raw" its not completely disgusting when its melted but I will still rather avoid it.

[Grass Muncher]

So if been to the docter to get a prescription for Ritalin. I said to my mom whatever she does she should please keep quite about my brother and I being vegan because not all docters are even close to being educated on the subject. But she couldnt help herself being proud of her boys. The docter used the same old saying, "IRON, CALCIUM, PrOTeiN"

 

My mom being a graphic designer for UJ can help my make a pamphlet as to what vegan means and the basics you need to know. The pamphlet is strictly going to be about the diet and environmental part.

 

Id honestly like to hear your thoughts on this. Is it a good idea to hand out a pamphlet?

My mom think its a terrible idea and that people are going to dislike me for it.

Edited November 14, 2020 by Grass Muncher

[Chris_]

This is why people don't like vegans; because of the activists, it's just strange that the few activists have managed to define an entire lifestyle in this instance.

 

In the same way we don't want to be approached by anyone - be they sea rescue, feeding child orphans, or sparing the earth and animals, I don't think you'll get any traction from the public.

 

But if you feel the need to actively promote veganism, then it's one of the few options available to you.

[DR ◣◢]

Save your mother’s time and money.

 

Why do you feel the need to be preachy. People don’t change until they want to change.

[Grass Muncher]

Thats the thing. I dont want to be preachy, nor do I want to be an activist. I dont have anything to gain like a charity. So by giving them the pamphlet I can save them time so that they dont have to listen to me because ultimately there's a chance that they are going to get pissed. They then have the option to read my pamphlet or not.

 

People dont change until they feel the need to want to. Very true, it took 8 months for my one friend to finally do a bit of research on the topic and now he's a vegetarian for 2 months.

Edited November 14, 2020 by Grass Muncher

[DR ◣◢]

Then why bother with the pamphlets? Build a website or social media page instead.

Edited November 14, 2020 by DR ◣◢

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Thats the thing. I dont want to be preachy, nor do I want to be an activist. I dont have anything to gain like a charity. So by giving them the pamphlet I can save them time so that they dont have to listen to me because ultimately there's a chance that they are going to get pissed. They then have the option to read my pamphlet or not.

 

People dont change until they feel the need to want to. Very true, it took 8 months for my one friend to finally do a bit of research on the topic and now he's a vegetarian for 2 months.

The majority of pamphlets go straight in the bin. Not very vegan.

 

You'll be treated like a street preacher / evangelical nutter or similar.

[Chris_]

Thats the thing. I dont want to be preachy, nor do I want to be an activist. I dont have anything to gain like a charity. So by giving them the pamphlet I can save them time so that they dont have to listen to me because ultimately there's a chance that they are going to get pissed. They then have the option to read my pamphlet or not.

 

People dont change until they feel the need to want to. Very true, it took 8 months for my one friend to finally do a bit of research on the topic and now he's a vegetarian for 2 months.

You don't want to be preachy nor an activist, yet you do feel strongly enough to want to hand out pamphlets. Which is fine. Not all vegan activists need to spray people with fake blood and whatever other visceral performace. You can be the chilled kind.

 

And as captain says the majority will go in the bin. But if a single one gets read and that's good enough for you, then go for it. It's not for us to set your personal goals.

[Mojoman]

You will need to blow up a McDonalds or something and plant vegetables in the crater....
No-one will take you seriously otherwise....The bigger the bang, the better the reaction...
Be Strong Brother....

[Patchelicious]

You will need to blow up a McDonalds or something and plant vegetables in the crater....

No-one will take you seriously otherwise....The bigger the bang, the better the reaction...

Be Strong Brother....

That’s explains that crater outside Delmas!

[Grass Muncher]

????Skip the pamphlet

and blow up the doctor's appointment room. Plant vegetables in the centre of the crator. Got it????

[IceCreamMan]

Another 1.3 kilos down, BMI under 29 now (yeah i am still a fat bastard) 

 

A couple of other observations: (whether actual or psychosomatic i cant say) 

 

1. While running now my upper HR can go higher than before. (could be a garmin issue and it is as much as 8 to 10% higher) 

2. Last week i was able to run on 3 concurrent days. Recovery seems much imrpoved. 

3. Last one is strange , i used to get pins and needles in my left arm regualrly, now almost never. 

 

All too early to make any irrefutable claims but it is a positive step. 

[Chris_]

I'm pretty sure its proven that a plant based diet is much better for exercise recovery.

 

(Not to mention the weight loss will make it easier on your joints etc)

[Chris_]

Joburg non-meat eaters. If you are missing a chicken mayo sandwich, may I suggest The Fussy Vegan's Tofu Bacon Sub.

 

To be honest the fake bacon can be left off, and to compare it to chicken mayo is unfair because its actually far far tastier, but that tofu-mayo creation they have made is unbelievably delicious.

[Red Robin]

Thats the thing. I dont want to be preachy, nor do I want to be an activist. I dont have anything to gain like a charity. So by giving them the pamphlet I can save them time so that they dont have to listen to me because ultimately there's a chance that they are going to get pissed. They then have the option to read my pamphlet or not.

 

People dont change until they feel the need to want to. Very true, it took 8 months for my one friend to finally do a bit of research on the topic and now he's a vegetarian for 2 months.

 

I respect your beliefs and wanting to promote veganism, it is refreshing to see a young person standing up for something that they endorse and wanting to educate others.

 

I must confess I haven't read all your posts but is animal rights one of the reasons you wish to promote veganism?

Perhaps consider also volunteering at a local animal shelter if you have the spare time, they often need extra hands. 

[Grass Muncher]

I respect your beliefs and wanting to promote veganism, it is refreshing to see a young person standing up for something that they endorse and wanting to educate others.

 

I must confess I haven't read all your posts but is animal rights one of the reasons you wish to promote veganism?

Perhaps consider also volunteering at a local animal shelter if you have the spare time, they often need extra hands.

Vegans don't want to get involved in helping animals, I do have a soft spot for dogs. Vegans rather want to end animal abuse, so that includes things like not buying your dog from a breeder.

 

I was at a local animal shelter once. Not really anything I can do for them except giving them a bath which I was instructed to do. Donating will be better.

Believe me when I say that vegans dont want to be seen as animal lovers.

 

The pamphlet idea isn't a good idea but reading about animal abuse isnt affective and will make people lose interest. They would need to watch a documentary if they truly cared.