popcorn_skollie Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 https://enduro-mtb.com/en/best-enduro-bike-you-can-buy/ Quite a bit in here about geo - sounds like the're starting a backlash against extreme geo :-) It was only a matter of time. We plateaued the long, low, slack routine ages ago.It won't be long before we regress to the forgotten wisdom of 26 inch wheels.
Headshot Posted February 25, 2019 Author Posted February 25, 2019 I havent read all the reviews but when they start saying the Spaz Enduro has a very progressive rear suspension design I start doubting their credentials. Also, on bikes like this you need to set them up carefully for each rider eg. by removing or adding volume reducers as any owner would. Then there is also that German brand love that comes through a bit...
Capricorn Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 It was only a matter of time. We plateaued the long, low, slack routine ages ago.It won't be long before we regress to the forgotten wisdom of 26 inch wheels.plateaued? Where was the cut-off?
popcorn_skollie Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 plateaued? Where was the cut-off? Its not a made up word I swear!
popcorn_skollie Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 To answer your question though. Mondraker was probably the cut-off.
Headshot Posted February 25, 2019 Author Posted February 25, 2019 To answer your question though. Mondraker was probably the cut-off.I think they say Pole has gone too far and you should/could downsize when buying one :-) I know i would - a medium would fit me fine...
Capricorn Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 Its not a made up word I swear! wasn't being a grammar Nazi, not that time I'm not sure if the story has been fully told yet. Mondraker may have started it, but with the advent of 29ers in all category of riding, there's still room for optimization. Look how long it took for 29 wheels and hubs to mature. Frankly, I think the industry played everyone for a fool wrt 29ers. Sold them off on the theoretical benefits, but failed to disclose that it was still a huge work in progress. Increased hub spacing is such a case: it wasn't a nice to have wrt wagon wheels, it was a must IMV. Eddy Gordo 1
Capricorn Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 I think they say Pole has gone too far and you should/could downsize when buying one :-) I know i would - a medium would fit me fine...I find the approach by Pole as very reasonable, and would love to throw a leg over one for a few months.Like their STA : while everyone was struggling to venture away of the aesthetic value of an STA that is reflected in the rake of the fork/HA, Pole just went straight to the point about STA and MTBs: climbing efficiency. I am very glad a few other brands are following suit. But seems the better well known brands are scared of a public lambasting under the banner of FUGLY. Eddy Gordo, Odinson and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 3
Bos Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 The past few weeks I've been in one of those 'new bike death spirals'. Currently, I've got a 170mm enduro tank. I recently did my first marathon race in years and actually enjoyed the pain and suffering a bit. So, that got me thinking. I'd like a bike which is more suited for big miles, but I also only want one bike, as I will typically only ride once a week. Thus, a second bike is just not on the cards. So, I had a look at this: Radon Skeen Trail - 29", 130/120, 68° HA, 454mm reach. So, pretty decent trail bike numbers, but should be good to cover ground quickly. BUT, I also want to do some Enduro races this year and they can get pretty gnarly, so that bike might just kill me. Aaargh! Mid-travel 29er maybe? Just wondering whether that class of bikes is really that much more efficient than a 650B with a bit more travel. Decisions, decisions. Another vote for the 29'' I think its all going in that direction anyway. Very interesting to see how in the Enduro-mtb mag, trailbike catagory bikes have gone from averaging 120/130mm to 150mm. I think a 140 rear end is enough. I guess it depends how you dress it up as well. https://enduro-mtb.com/en/trail-bike-3000-group-test/https://enduro-mtb.com/en/high-end-trail-bike-group-test/https://enduro-mtb.com/en/best-trail-bike-you-can-buy/ in the earliest test 28% of bikes were 29''in the last, 61 were 29'' In my humble opinion, as someone also interested in the mythical no compromise one bike quiver (its all a compromise BTW) in this day and age I think the biggest two factors in the one bike quiver is weight and the height of the front end. If you can keep the front end as low as possible, even better adjustable.. you're winning. Weight, In the distance game, it will always be a factor. Therefore, get two wheelsets, since swapping wheels are about as much haste as one would want to go through, but also quite an important part when it comes to confidence,ability,weight and strength. Odinson and Jewbacca 2
popcorn_skollie Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 But seems the better well known brands are scared of a public lambasting under the banner of FUGLY. I still think they ugly. But I do appreciate the madness. Especially that 29er super enduro. We need guys to keep pushing boundries. Especially at a time where so many bikes feel like they've have exhausted the neo geo status quo. Sensibly opting to explore and/or refine other areas. Like GG and the 4in1 bike. Refreshing and thought provoking while Pole just looks eccentric.
Headshot Posted February 25, 2019 Author Posted February 25, 2019 What I did find refreshing about ze Germans was that they seem to have stopped heaping excessive praise on 29er bikes and were more balanced in their reviews of the 27.5 bikes. The smaller wheelsize came up as a positive rather than a negative... maybe the wheel really is turning :-) Steven Knoetze (sk27) 1
Hairy Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 Seems the 'Merican sites and a bit of the UK sites are more "29'er bedonerd" vs the Euro boys and girls in their reviews. What I did find refreshing about ze Germans was that they seem to have stopped heaping excessive praise on 29er bikes and were more balanced in their reviews of the 27.5 bikes. The smaller wheelsize came up as a positive rather than a negative... maybe the wheel really is turning :-) Steven Knoetze (sk27) 1
Odinson Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 What I did find refreshing about ze Germans was that they seem to have stopped heaping excessive praise on 29er bikes and were more balanced in their reviews of the 27.5 bikes. The smaller wheelsize came up as a positive rather than a negative... maybe the wheel really is turning :-) Pinkbike is still very much on the 29er Kool-Aid.
Hairy Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 After saying this though, I am certainly intrigued and keen to still swing a leg over a modern 29'er AM or trail machine (Note, not a ^$%&^$ E-Bike). Seems the 'Merican sites and a bit of the UK sites are more "29'er bedonerd" vs the Euro boys and girls in their reviews. Capricorn and Jewbacca 2
Sparky and the Warden Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 Who sells the cushcore here? I think it looks amazing! I shall look into that! Cool... On order. Amped to get it fitted and take the bike for another spin. (with slightly more pressure!) Yeah... I figured a DD casing would be better better than squirmy sidewalls and an insert. As for blitzing you guys, maybe in a few weeks after getting this beauty dialled!Trailtech cycles they do all the rad goodies! Jewbacca 1
Jewbacca Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 After saying this though, I am certainly intrigued and keen to still swing a leg over a modern 29'er AM or trail machine (Note, not a ^$%&^$ E-Bike).You're welcome to take mine for a spin! It's not 63/77 Sick bike geo but it says 66/75 on the box! Hairy and Headshot 2
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