Grease_Monkey Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 I get a chubby every time I see the CNC milling marks.I don't blame you...
MudLark Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 two pistons that push on A much larger pad , much bigger surface area for friction i.e. More effective braking power Standard XT brakes lock up immediately when you grab them firmly. In fact, one has to go somewhat gently to be sure NOT to lock them up. For me personally I wouldn't see any value in it all.
MphatiPyga Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 Bigger pistons, but yes. Tempted to try some, but happy with my hopesHopes would be on top of my list, but the price!
Mojoman Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 ok ok, I meant BRAKES....I can't seem to change the blerrie topic name Now all the grammar nazis can go to bed feeling better that they found someone to troll todayDon't forget your full stops!
stefmeister Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 Wouldn't take them over Hope. They are just better than anything else at that price point. A set of Hopes are right on top of my want/drool over list.2 months in on my Hopes. They’re not very powerful stoppers, BUT the modulation is real and has restored my confidence which I’ve been struggling with for the last 6 months when riding Sram Guides and Curas. Curas are beasts with good modulation, but I don’t like the lever feel and the set I had pissed me off. Guides, they work when you can eventually get them to work. As for Shimano. I’ll never bother with XTs again. SLX and Deores are just fine.
Duane_Bosch Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 Strange, cos a couple of ppl who have them are very happy. Did you use the standard pads, or the sintered ones? Apparently the sintered offer a MASSIVE increase in braking power over the standard ones, Accordimg to a few reviewsYeah I was happy too until I ran out of brakes halfway down a mountain and had to crash into a catch fence to stop myself. The OP wants power. TRP slates have great feel. Not great power. The Cura's on the other hand. OMG! Like hitting a wall.
Jako De Wet Posted January 21, 2019 Author Posted January 21, 2019 Thank you for all the comments, seems like Cura is the way to go. Seems I can get a set for around R3500. Will probably need to get new rotor's as well as I can't imagine the Tektro ones being that great. And last question: If getting new rotor's will it be worthwhile getting a 203 for the back as well? Current setup is 180/203
PhilipV Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 Interesting. I took a set of Level TLM's off my bike recently and replaced them with Xt 8000s for two reasons: (a) I found the Levels squishy and for me they just didn't bite hard enough fast enough when needed (b) the Levels squealed like heck even after a fair bit of use. Very happy having gone (back) to XTOne man's squishy is another man's modulation. Shimano is known for buying hard and early. Some like it, some don't. Its not lekker when you have two bikes, one with shimano, another with SRAM, because the lever feel becomes instinctive. I ended up going with shimano brakes on both. The price point suited ne, and now it is what I'm used to. I put way less pressure into the levers on my shimanos than what I put into the sram brakes. That being said, if I get new brakes one day when I grow up, it will either be the 4pot shimano deores, or Cura's. But my current brakes will need to die first.
PhilipV Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 Standard XT brakes lock up immediately when you grab them firmly. In fact, one has to go somewhat gently to be sure NOT to lock them up. For me personally I wouldn't see any value in it all.Horses for courses. On gravel roads and for most mtb uses, the 2pots are fine. A lot of people race downhill with two pots and they work. But the 4pots add power, which is nice when riding steep trails, or bleeding off lots off speed hurriedly, or when stopping a heavier rider, or for ebikes, tandems etc. More power= less finger strength= less arm pump.
Bos Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 One man's squishy is another man's modulation.Shimano is known for buying hard and early. Some like it, some don't.Its not lekker when you have two bikes, one with shimano, another with SRAM, because the lever feel becomes instinctive. I ended up going with shimano brakes on both. The price point suited ne, and now it is what I'm used to. I put way less pressure into the levers on my shimanos than what I put into the sram brakes. That being said, if I get new brakes one day when I grow up, it will either be the 4pot shimano deores, or Cura's. But my current brakes will need to die first. Are these 2019? I have the current deore offering picked them up for a steal(new) but got bigger rotors and new pads before they became convincing enough. I am only 70kg's kitted and I dont live in the alps. I've been looking on "Bike-components.de" since im in the UK later this week, and found these. Shimano saint is usually up there with the best in test and these should offer similar performance with slightly more weight and less knobs to turn.
slickjay007 Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 Interesting. I took a set of Level TLM's off my bike recently and replaced them with Xt 8000s for two reasons: (a) I found the Levels squishy and for me they just didn't bite hard enough fast enough when needed (b) the Levels squealed like heck even after a fair bit of use. Very happy having gone (back) to XT I have the same issues with my TLM's plus the stock brakes pads are high wearing and tend to squeak a lot. Also looking for an affordable replacement.
MphatiPyga Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 Now that I’ve ordered have I pulled the trigger or lever?
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 Are these 2019? I have the current deore offering picked them up for a steal(new) but got bigger rotors and new pads before they became convincing enough. I am only 70kg's kitted and I dont live in the alps. I've been looking on "Bike-components.de" since im in the UK later this week, and found these. Shimano saint is usually up there with the best in test and these should offer similar performance with slightly more weight and less knobs to turn. yeah, 2019 model year afaik for those deore 4 pots. Zee brakes are also good. Thermophage has them, and he's never once complained about them. Still wants Hopes tho. Reportedly they offer slightly more modulation than the standard on/off shimano stuff.
MudLark Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 I have the same issues with my TLM's plus the stock brakes pads are high wearing and tend to squeak a lot. Also looking for an affordable replacement.FWIW, CycleLab were having a special on M8000s a while back. I took advantage of it to swap out my brake systems.
Thermophage Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 yeah, 2019 model year afaik for those deore 4 pots. Zee brakes are also good. Thermophage has them, and he's never once complained about them. Still wants Hopes tho. Reportedly they offer slightly more modulation than the standard on/off shimano stuff. Hopes...for the engineering PORN! Yeah they Zee's have been flawless over the last 3 years...virtually indestructible. Super reliable, super powerful and much less bitey than other Shimano. Will never buy XT's again...rode them before and throught they were lekker. Then rode them back to back with the Zee's after having the Zee's for about 2 years...The XT's can go jump in a lake (M785 and M8000).
Thermophage Posted January 21, 2019 Posted January 21, 2019 Are these 2019? I have the current deore offering picked them up for a steal(new) but got bigger rotors and new pads before they became convincing enough. I am only 70kg's kitted and I dont live in the alps. I've been looking on "Bike-components.de" since im in the UK later this week, and found these. Shimano saint is usually up there with the best in test and these should offer similar performance with slightly more weight and less knobs to turn. AFIK the Zee's haven't seen an update in years. They haven't needed it.
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