SRAM Eagle AXS Groupset (Limited stock)

[Schnavel]

That is the one big issue for me - in my life putting 1000s of km's pa on my bike the groupset is a consumable. So even if I could scratch the money together once-off now I'll be screwed a year down the line.

 

Too much sense to be posting on the Hub!

 

I'm on a similar wavelength to you. The wireless shifting is incredible and something I would be willing to spend money on. However, until there are cheaper consumables available (cassette, chain and chainrings) I don't believe it make senses. 

 

I still have 11 speed on my mtb and cassettes are a fraction of the price of the Eagle cassettes. I lose out on the 50T, but otherwise, it's pretty similar. Until SRAM goes 13 speed and there are massive savings on the price of a cassette, I simply cannot justify R8k for wearable parts.

 

Of course, as many have already mention, if you have the money, want the groupset and can afford it, then why not?!

[Furbz]

That is the one big issue for me - in my life putting 1000s of km's pa on my bike the groupset is a consumable. So even if I could scratch the money together once-off now I'll be screwed a year down the line.

 

 

Too much sense to be posting on the Hub!

 

I'm on a similar wavelength to you. The wireless shifting is incredible and something I would be willing to spend money on. However, until there are cheaper consumables available (cassette, chain and chainrings) I don't believe it make senses. 

 

I still have 11 speed on my mtb and cassettes are a fraction of the price of the Eagle cassettes. I lose out on the 50T, but otherwise, it's pretty similar. Until SRAM goes 13 speed and there are massive savings on the price of a cassette, I simply cannot justify R8k for wearable parts.

 

Of course, as many have already mention, if you have the money, want the groupset and can afford it, then why not?!

 

or you do like i have been doing for years. have the good stuff, ie super record. and run a chorus chain and cassette.

 

so buy the AXS, and just use cheaper chains and cassettes when they wear out. running costs are then the same as usual. 

unless of course you keep falling and breaking your gear. but that a different argument entirely.

[Skubarra]

 

Interesting perspective some people, mostly one, got about this new drivetrain.  I don’t think this new drivetrain was meant for you if you through a hissy fit about the price.  Clearly this was meant for pro riders that does not pay for it and those that can afford and want it. 

If you haven’t reached the financial success to afford this then be happy with what you can afford but pointing and laughing at someone that did reach that financial success tells us a little more about you as a person than that of the person enjoying his new wireless shifting. 

 

 

So just because we are poor and can't afford it we should just shut up and aren't allowed to have opinions on expensive bike parts?

 

Surely whether you are willing to pay R33K for a group set is not only about whether you can afford it or not, but whether you perceive to get value for money, Do you really think all rich people just throw their money at the most expensive bike parts just because they can? 

[Headshot]

No brakes or remote dropper post wtf :-) That said this is one electro groupset I would love to own. Never felt the same thing for Di2 - too many wires and hassles fitting batteries and so on. This overpriced AXS sh$t is the sh$t. 

[sirmoun10goat]

So just because we are poor and can't afford it we should just shut up and aren't allowed to have opinions on expensive bike parts?

 

Surely whether you are willing to pay R33K for a group set is not only about whether you can afford it or not, but whether you perceive to get value for money, Do you really think all rich people just throw their money at the most expensive bike parts just because they can? 

 

There is a difference between having an opinion on the groupset and pointing and laughing at someone who has the groupset

[sirmoun10goat]

That is the one big issue for me - in my life putting 1000s of km's pa on my bike the groupset is a consumable. So even if I could scratch the money together once-off now I'll be screwed a year down the line.

 

This comment is not related to electronic vs mechanical group sets, but rather the quality of the XO1 and XX1 chains and cassettes. A little bit of care (wash and lube) and these items will outlast multi iterations of NX and GX chains and cassettes, making the running costs of the XO1 and XX1 cheaper

[Skubarra]

There is a difference between having an opinion on the groupset and pointing and laughing at someone who has the groupset

 

People usually point and laugh at my bike for opposite reasons 

[Furbz]

So just because we are poor and can't afford it we should just shut up and aren't allowed to have opinions on expensive bike parts?

 

Surely whether you are willing to pay R33K for a group set is not only about whether you can afford it or not, but whether you perceive to get value for money, Do you really think all rich people just throw their money at the most expensive bike parts just because they can? 

 

 

nope. i expect all the rich people and some real enthusiast throw their money at it because they are passionate about their sport and have the means to do so.

[Spinnekop]

No brakes or remote dropper post wtf :-) That said this is one electro groupset I would love to own. Never felt the same thing for Di2 - too many wires and hassles fitting batteries and so on. This overpriced AXS sh$t is the sh$t. 

THey have launched new brakes.    

[Spinnekop]

Called the Sram G2

https://bikerumor.com/2019/03/28/new-sram-g2-mountain-bike-brakes-upgrade-the-guide-with-more-power/

[DieselnDust]

Or from a different perspecive, 

Buy X01/XX1 including chain and run the drivetrain for 7000-10,000km and then when the chain hits 0.5% spend anouther R1200 on a new chain, maybe a new chainring too.

Whereas, spend 1/3rd on a GX drivetrain and wear it out within 5000km and then spend again.

 

cost per km I'm illing to bet XX1 and X01 is going to be cheaper. And I reckon the AXS battery will be cheaper than the decent cable kits you need to keep a mechanical system running

[DieselnDust]

THey have launched new brakes.    

 

 

and a new dropper which I'm amazed HS missed 

[CJ Van]

So just because we are poor and can't afford it we should just shut up and aren't allowed to have opinions on expensive bike parts?

 

Surely whether you are willing to pay R33K for a group set is not only about whether you can afford it or not, but whether you perceive to get value for money, Do you really think all rich people just throw their money at the most expensive bike parts just because they can? 

 

Now now, calm down.  I can’t remember saying you are not allowed to have an opinion but just to be sure I will read my post again.  Nope, did not say that. 

 

You also forgot to read the middle section where I mentioned that we do not think anything funny of someone driving a R1.4mil vehicle compared to a R450k vehicle.  Not all rich people drive a R1.4mil car either.  I have just never seen anybody laughing and pointing fingers at people driving expensive cars that they do not need but wanted.  Why should this new drivetrain be any different? 

 

Also, if you can afford a R25k plus MTB and all the costs associated with the sport then you are by no means poor.  That will put you somewhere in the top 30% in South Africa. 

 

You clearly missed my point.  You can’t judge someone on the price he is willing to pay for bike parts if there are so many other examples of us paying much more for other stuff in life than what we do not need but want. Why should this be any different?

[Sidersky]

So are you guys saying that if I put this groupset on my hardtail Totem with rim block brakes I'll be doing it wrong?

[Jacoo]

Or from a different perspecive,

Buy X01/XX1 including chain and run the drivetrain for 7000-10,000km and then when the chain hits 0.5% spend anouther R1200 on a new chain, maybe a new chainring too.

Whereas, spend 1/3rd on a GX drivetrain and wear it out within 5000km and then spend again.

 

cost per km I'm illing to bet XX1 and X01 is going to be cheaper. And I reckon the AXS battery will be cheaper than the decent cable kits you need to keep a mechanical system running

I slightly get your point with the mileages, but no way the battery will be cheaper than some shifter cables. What cable kits are you buying? Ive never had any issues with basic R40 cables?

And the price of xx1 cassetes wont balance out the mileage you get from it. The only bang for buck xx1 component is the chain.

[Robbie Stewart]

I am guessing that despite people's perception about the value of the AXS, or anything similar i.t.o. price, clearly there is a market for such components, else I seriously doubt companies such as SRAM or Shimano would bother manufacturing them?

I also seriously doubt they would go through all the R&D costs just to be able to say, "look at what we managed."

If you find value (not just monetary) in a purchase, and you can justify it, then by all means, do it if that pleases you. If you don't find value in a purchase, or might extend yourself beyond your means, then clearly don't.