E Bike cheats

[Frosty]

The next generation e-bike is already here... https://www.erockit.de/en/limited-edition-100/

 

0% emission, 100% emotion

 

Nice price too.

 

[SwissVan]

The next generation e-bike is already here... https://www.erockit.de/en/limited-edition-100/

 

0% emission, 100% emotion

 

Nice price too.

 

 

 

Yeah zero emotion

 

At the recent MTB World cup in Lenzerheide, the lead bike was an electric enduro bike (KTM i think)…. it just did not seem right watching this thing go around and the only noise was disc brake squeal and chain rattle

[Breezer]

I think the whole getting older, unfit and fat people into the sport with ebikes is BS. My dad was 63, weight 130kg and was as unfit as you can get. One day he said, i want to do the argus and bought a bike and started TRAINING.First week he did daily 5km rides and slowly progressed. He lost 18kg and did his Argus having a ball. And he did it on a normal bike.

E bike is a quick fix for the lazy.

Burn away.

[Cois]

I think the whole getting older, unfit and fat people into the sport with ebikes is BS. My dad was 63, weight 130kg and was as unfit as you can get. One day he said, i want to do the argus and bought a bike and started TRAINING.First week he did daily 5km rides and slowly progressed. He lost 18kg and did his Argus having a ball. And he did it on a normal bike.

E bike is a quick fix for the lazy.

Burn away.

 

https://www.facebook.com/514958908595147/posts/2341198822637804?s=100023870225378&v=e&sfns=mo

 

Spotted this the morning...

[SwissVan]

To be honest, if I get a e-bike today it will be one of the greatest things ever for me.

 

I am limited by what my heart can do and I can’t push to hard or I will die (not my words but the words of the doctor and the medicine I am on)

 

I would like to ride many places, but I just can’t.

 

Will I use the bike to race? Hell no! I don’t even do races with my normal bike because I hate races and their seeding systems.

 

The last race I took part in (we are talking 3 or 4 years ago when I was a little bit fit) I started in the last bunch. I ended up catching some of the C Bunch people. And when things started with a little incline in the road, the whole field had to stop, get off and walk because they did not know how to use gears, and were just not fit enough for the smallest hill in the road and a severe lack of any MTB skills.

 

Maybe one day I will try a race again on the DS bike just for fun and i. The last batch of the race again.

Now this would be a great example of why ebikes are great!

 

Have you seriously considered trying this, not for racing but just to get out and about?

[WaynejG]

What I find interesting is the CSA rule that E bikes cannot compete during a normal MTB race that is taking place. Yet here in PE it happens at all the events. They do however start last.

[Cois]

Now this would be a great example of why ebikes are great!

 

Have you seriously considered trying this, not for racing but just to get out and about?

I want to give it a go.  Since my outing last week, my blood pressure is in the region of 140/105 and that for me is very very hight and I have constant headaches from that.  I can't push my HR at the moment as I might die due to the meds that I am on (oh no joke, the side effects of the pills are a heart attack).  I want to wait one day and try to get on the bike again today, and see if my BP drops a bit, or else I need to go see the doctor for more meds to help me with my BP.  Oh and the BP is a side effect of one of the meds that I am on.

 

One huge hurdle.  The cost of the bikes.

[DieselnDust]

What about motor outputs and driver gear size

 

Standardized battery sizes is A tiny part of this equation

 

 

Watt.hours is Watt.hours. The capacity to do work.

weight is a decent gauge but the encasement for the batteries does vary somewhat in deisgn and therefore weight.

[Cois]

They should follow a set of rules like in formula E racing.

Level the playing field and the best cyclist will still win.  Make it about the cyclist and not the bike.

[Duane_Bosch]

I want to give it a go.  Since my outing last week, my blood pressure is in the region of 140/105 and that for me is very very hight and I have constant headaches from that.  I can't push my HR at the moment as I might die due to the meds that I am on (oh no joke, the side effects of the pills are a heart attack).  I want to wait one day and try to get on the bike again today, and see if my BP drops a bit, or else I need to go see the doctor for more meds to help me with my BP.  Oh and the BP is a side effect of one of the meds that I am on.

 

One huge hurdle.  The cost of the bikes.

Slight hijack.

 

Sorry if this is a personal q. What meds are you on?

 

do you have a BP issue and a cholesterol issue? I'm asking coz I have astronomically high cholesterol and both my parents had heart attacks. I'm on meds and trying my best to get fitter.

 

My doc said that getting fitter will reduce my chances of a heart attack. I bought a HRM and I'm doing 3-4 spinning classes a week and going as hard as I can. In 6 months my resting HR has gone down from high 60's to high 50's

 

Do you have a heart rate monitor? Do you keep your HR within a certain range?

[Jewbacca]

Slight hijack.

 

Sorry if this is a personal q. What meds are you on?

 

do you have a BP issue and a cholesterol issue? I'm asking coz I have astronomically high cholesterol and both my parents had heart attacks. I'm on meds and trying my best to get fitter.

 

My doc said that getting fitter will reduce my chances of a heart attack. I bought a HRM and I'm doing 3-4 spinning classes a week and going as hard as I can. In 6 months my resting HR has gone down from high 60's to high 50's

 

Do you have a heart rate monitor? Do you keep your HR within a certain range?

Excuse me! We are flaming cheats here.... Go and take your talk of good health, aspirations and legitimate training to another thread.... No one needs to see that hard work, dedication, sacrifice and determination can over come illness and circumstance... Just buy an e-bike!

 

As an aside, well done. That is amazing progress and hard work. 

[Zatopek]

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/video-the-fim-emtb-world-cup-race-in-imola-was-embarrassing.html

 

If eMTB racing is going to be a thing (and the jury is still out on that one), it can't be this... 

[Duane_Bosch]

Excuse me! We are flaming cheats here.... Go and take your talk of good health, aspirations and legitimate training to another thread.... No one needs to see that hard work, dedication, sacrifice and determination can over come illness and circumstance... Just buy an e-bike!

 

As an aside, well done. That is amazing progress and hard work. 

Haha. I'm so so sorry. I'm in Malawi at the moment using the Kaaaaaaaak spinning bike in the hotel. I'm using my HRM and doing 1 min standing 2 min spinning efforts to try to not flush all my hard work down the drain. I'm using calories/30 to determine my "kms ridden" 

 

Personally I love EBikes. I've had a Levo on test and it was fun as hell. But in my opinion it will make you more of what you already are. If you are a pinner who is fit it will make you more of that. But if you are a sleg lazy pig like me then it will make you more of that which is the exact thing I'm trying to combat.

 

So the guys moaning about e bike cheats. Give it time. 90% of people on  e bikes are lazy. they'll continue their downward trajectory and end up back on the couch in no time at all. 9% are gravity guys using them as "shuttles" and 1% will draw inspiration from the added fitness and buy a normal bike.

[Jewbacca]

Haha. I'm so so sorry.

 

Personally I love EBikes. I've had a Levo on test and it was fun as hell. But in my opinion it will make you more of what you already are. If you are a pinner who is fit it will make you more of that. But if you are a sleg lazy pig like me then it will make you more of that which is the exact thing I'm trying to combat.

Yeah.. I agree. I would love a 140mm trail e-bike like the Commencal to absolutely thrash places like Jonkers. It's so vast that if you want to smash 4 trails top to bottom, you need to plan a whole day. Riding all 7 big trails before lunch with enough energy to run 30km in the mountains on Sunday is the dream.

 

But that is not the point. This thread is about why humans feel the need to cheat, why other humans are still so surprised said people cheat despite tens of thousands of instances that prove some people can't help but cheat and the basic governance of said cheating.

 

I still think public shaming is great. Shout 'Cheat' every time you see one illegally at a race. Report their number to marshals etc... Public shaming is fantastic. And a ban. It is mechanical doping after all. Getting people caught and on the naughty person list for mechanical doping might stamp out the cheating e-bikes.

[Duane_Bosch]

 It is mechanical doping after all. 

And there it is.

[Odinson]

Yeah.. I agree. I would love a 140mm trail e-bike like the Commencal to absolutely thrash places like Jonkers. It's so vast that if you want to smash 4 trails top to bottom, you need to plan a whole day. Riding all 7 big trails before lunch with enough energy to run 30km in the mountains on Sunday is the dream.

 

But that is not the point. This thread is about why humans feel the need to cheat, why other humans are still so surprised said people cheat despite tens of thousands of instances that prove some people can't help but cheat and the basic governance of said cheating.

 

I still think public shaming is great. Shout 'Cheat' every time you see one illegally at a race. Report their number to marshals etc... Public shaming is fantastic. And a ban. It is mechanical doping after all. Getting people caught and on the naughty person list for mechanical doping might stamp out the cheating e-bikes.

 

Get someone like this following the unsanctioned e-bikers at races: