nonky Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 Sell what's on the truck.And if there are no hardtails on the truck, then you tell the customers that hardtails are dead Yip, Spez SA didn't even bother to import the new Fuse (trail HT 29er). I suspect the dealers are still trying to shift the previous 27.5 fattie models that were imported in 2015/6...
Me rida my bicycle Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 so which one are you riding now? The rm?the Scott Scale, I am still to find something it can't do for my riding and skill level I love this bike. The RM was not a all day ride HT.
Me rida my bicycle Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 Didn't read your whole post, but no, most certrainly not dead. As an XC bike they don't make sense to me - they are uncomfortable, and slower than dual suspensions on everything except for smooth climbs.But as a hooligan trail bike, nothing is more fun. Of all my bikes I reach for my trail hardtail more than anything else just because it is so dam fun. Long, low and slack HTs are very capable, low maintenance, and make even mellower trails more lively. They have a next to cult following - but you are right, they are not as poppular as they once were, and the reason for that is simple - full suspension bikes are faster (whether that is climbing or descending) and more comfortable.Although my HT is my favourite bike, it would not be the bike I would choose if I could have only one bike.it all depends on the HT most of the big brands have some sort of gimmick to soften the rear to increase comfort and grip Scott with the SDS and Cannondale with SAVE is the best in my opinion and with fat rubber you are still miles away in terms of weight. Riding style also plays a big role, I am way faster on the climbs and only a tiny bit slower on technical decends on the HT than dual so less effort in the climbs means I can ride more in one day and that's why I love my HT.
Me rida my bicycle Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 Yip, Spez SA didn't even bother to import the new Fuse (trail HT 29er). I suspect the dealers are still trying to shift the previous 27.5 fattie models that were imported in 2015/6... because even with massive rubber those fuse frames would shake you apart.
wildwindfr Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 Not dead.Never owned or ridden a dual suspension.They have always been out of my limited budget.Would love a steel or Ti hardtail.
Grunder Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 People in Stellenbosch are chops thats why ???? Hard tail kicks ass
Jewbacca Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 I will say it again... You get Hardtails And you get Hardtails... You guys are talking about Spez and 'Dale etc but in reality there is a whole industry out there full of bike manufacturers who spend most of their time making hardtails. It's like talking about VW and Toyota and forgetting to even look at Bugati's and Aston Martins or an Ineos Grenadier. BTR, Kingdom, Shan Production Privee, Kona, Ragley and more all make hardtails that would leave the large production companies dead in the water. So if you want a hardtail that can be built under 10kg and used to race, rad. But proper ones are made for hooning and none of the 'big brands' have dipped their toes into that
daveno7 Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 Hardtails are a great entry point into MTB riding...the trails are in SA are unique and world leading... What I would say from my personal experience it that riding an entry level hardtail can let you become a better rider....and they are great fun...i still love mine as i do my full-suss for more aggressive riding in our trails here... hardtails are great bikes....and don't forget lighter...
BSG Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 What about the Trek Roscoe 8? Looks like a nice ride.
Super Sywurm Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 I currently ride a dual susp bike, but I still prefer hard tail. My next bike will be a hard tail again, probably one of the Giant XTC bikes. But this will only be in a couple of years.
eddy Posted January 27, 2020 Posted January 27, 2020 I will say it again... You get Hardtailshardtail1.jpg And you get Hardtails...Hardtail2.jpg You guys are talking about Spez and 'Dale etc but in reality there is a whole industry out there full of bike manufacturers who spend most of their time making hardtails. It's like talking about VW and Toyota and forgetting to even look at Bugati's and Aston Martins or an Ineos Grenadier. BTR, Kingdom, Shan Production Privee, Kona, Ragley and more all make hardtails that would leave the large production companies dead in the water. So if you want a hardtail that can be built under 10kg and used to race, rad. But proper ones are made for hooning and none of the 'big brands' have dipped their toes into thatApparently one doesn't put a SID on one either....
Spafsack Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 I have always had hard tails, im 45 now, in my mind i feel 10 years younger but i have to listen to my body, it sucks, still on a hardtail even when most people say when you start getting older you must get a soft tail, i dont agree. We always talk about weight but for me the less my bike weighs the better as i feel it on uphills. A soft tail with same spec will be at least 2kg heavier and you can feel that almost all the time. For me its not about speeding down massive or long downhills, its the dame uphills. I also prefer the instant speed and power when you stand and push with a hard tail, even though soft tails have dual lock outs, its just not the same, well, in the 20 to 30k price range, when you start spending 50k + on a soft tail then yes, different story.
NGM Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 I must say I was shocked when the guy at the Spaz store said no one buys hardtails anymore......Nice one. I hope you get a lot of travel out of that joke.
Rouxenator Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 I ride my bike everyday and prefer the simplicity and low maintenance a 1x hardtail offers. Personally I think full sus are for people with too much money or back problems. Currently my bike has over 28,000km on the odo and I would ideally like to take it over 40,000km - around the world effectively.
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