Vetplant Posted July 12, 2021 Share 1 minute ago, TNT1 said: Yeah, I watched it as well, it was unbelievable that that could happen. I assume his ds was livid. Other peeps have raised it previously: there is a gap in the market for jerseys, jackets and gloves etc that are idiot-proof to put on. But ja, don't undo the zip completely when you are hot on the climb, leave the last bit still engaged. Makes it easier to close it quickly. (Easy to criticize from my chair. Being completely exhausted on a crazy climb does strange things to one's state of mind) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted July 12, 2021 Share The wind on the top of the climb made it difficult/impossible for him to sit up and use both hands to fasten the jersey and keep the wheel. RE the idiot proof clothing...... Have you met people? Vetplant, geomark and DieselnDust 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmonooit Posted July 12, 2021 Share Great stage yesterday, love those mountains! Also very happy to see Seb taking it, sure he can blow hot and cold, but when he has got the legs, its fantastic to see, like the first time at that Tour of Utah mountain stage when he made his name. Vetplant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted July 12, 2021 Share 2 minutes ago, kosmonooit said: Great stage yesterday, love those mountains! Also very happy to see Seb taking it, sure he can blow hot and cold, but when he has got the legs, its fantastic to see, like the first time at that Tour of Utah mountain stage when he made his name. Seb? Obviously his name wasn't made properly on that stage....... ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted July 12, 2021 Share 4 minutes ago, kosmonooit said: Great stage yesterday, love those mountains! Also very happy to see Seb taking it, sure he can blow hot and cold, but when he has got the legs, its fantastic to see, like the first time at that Tour of Utah mountain stage when he made his name. Which one is Seb? I thought Sepp won yesterday. Also, not fair to say he "blows hot and cold" He's probably the most consistent mountain domestique in the peleton. Edited July 12, 2021 by TNT1 Scary Rider 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Bru Posted July 12, 2021 Share 10 minutes ago, TNT1 said: Oh, I have the same doubts about how fantastic Bahrain Victorious suddenly are. Also, is it ok to question the geographic oddity that is Slovenia? It's like East Germany or something? BTW, I enjoy the racing. I'm Lance's biggest fan. 7 TdF wins. I even named my son after him. Lets pretend that Pogacar is 100% clean for a moment... Imagine how crap it must be to never be able to prove it and for every performance to be ruthlessly scrutinized. It's impossible to prove a negative. So you kind of know that every time you put in a big performance, you're gonna get accused of being a doper, and there's nothing you can do to refute the accusations. But if we assume that he is doping somehow in some undetectable way, flip the kid has some real guts. For a 22 year old to stand on the biggest stage of the sport and perform the way he does knowing he's a doper and will inevitably be caught in the future when the technology to test for "XYZ drug" develops is borderline insane. Vetplant and DieselnDust 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Bru Posted July 12, 2021 Share 6 minutes ago, Jewbacca said: RE the idiot proof clothing...... Have you met people? ISN got it right with Woods by taking away his zip completely. Can't screw something up if it's not there Scary Rider, Long Wheel Base, TheoG and 5 others 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted July 12, 2021 Share Okes, drug doping is so last decade. These guys have been spliced with regenerative lizard genes, camel hydration, Dolphin Oxygen absoption etc.... They are bred to be athletes, not taken and made into athletes. The world, genetics and science is evolving super quickly. While I jest in a way, it wouldn't surprise me one bit to find out that super athletes are being created in a lab. Vetplant and Scary Rider 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted July 12, 2021 Share 5 minutes ago, Mountain Bru said: Lets pretend that Pogacar is 100% clean for a moment... I'm sure he is (or he isn't, I don't really mind either way), but to literally quote Lance in press conferences is not the way to go about convincing people. Wayne pudding Mol and Vetplant 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Just now, Jewbacca said: Okes, drug doping is so last decade. These guys have been spliced with regenerative lizard genes, camel hydration, Dolphin Oxygen absoption etc.... They are bred to be athletes, not taken and made into athletes. The world, genetics and science is evolving super quickly. While I jest in a way, it wouldn't surprise me one bit to find out that super athletes are being created in a lab. Nah, CRISPR is not quite at that level yet. Jewbacca 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetplant Posted July 12, 2021 Share 3 minutes ago, Jewbacca said: Okes, drug doping is so last decade. These guys have been spliced with regenerative lizard genes, camel hydration, Dolphin Oxygen absoption etc.... They are bred to be athletes, not taken and made into athletes. The world, genetics and science is evolving super quickly. While I jest in a way, it wouldn't surprise me one bit to find out that super athletes are being created in a lab. The Chinese are probably way ahead of everyone in that field. They just have not decided that cycling is cool yet... (Rest days always bring out the most interesting discussions hey) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsw Posted July 12, 2021 Share Although I do not doubt Jeroen's assesssment of Pogacar's mental qualities and ability to recover it does not proof much unless it is directly compared to those of his main competitors ( top 10 in GC for example) as measured at the same time. I will just enjoy cycling for what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted July 12, 2021 Share 6 minutes ago, Vetplant said: The Chinese are probably way ahead of everyone in that field. They just have not decided that cycling is cool yet... They have actually used CRISPR on some twins. The results weren't exactly as planned, so it's not 100% ready for this yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewbacca Posted July 12, 2021 Share 5 minutes ago, Vetplant said: The Chinese are probably way ahead of everyone in that field. They just have not decided that cycling is cool yet... (Rest days always bring out the most interesting discussions hey) The russians.... They proved that national level systematic doping exists. The Chinese forced the Gymnastic world into creating a minimum age rule as they were turning prepubescent children into super gymnasts as their bodies are easier to manipulate and predict before hormones. Humans and winning... The extent of this obsession will never truly be know by us plebs Vetplant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Bru Posted July 12, 2021 Share 4 minutes ago, dsw said: Although I do not doubt Jeroen's assesssment of Pogacar's mental qualities and ability to recover it does not proof much unless it is directly compared to those of his main competitors ( top 10 in GC for example) as measured at the same time. I will just enjoy cycling for what it is. Might as well compare him to the local kindergarten this year. The top 10 on GC aren't exactly the sports top 10 grand tour riders. Vetplant, DieselnDust and Wayne pudding Mol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Bru Posted July 12, 2021 Share Just now, Jewbacca said: Humans and winning... The extent of this obsession will never truly be know by us plebs Have you not seen people sprinting like they're in Paris for position 3876 in the CTCT or 947? Jewbacca, Scary Rider, Long Wheel Base and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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