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What I do find most entertaining though is that on social media platforms, the people getting the most defensive and argumentative and not wiling to accept anothers opinion Are no more than weekend warriors who will not be affected by these new rules at all, other than if they sit on the couch watching the Pro's do it which will affect the "thrill" they get and minus some of the excitement on the descents I guess. 

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to be fair, from an amateur racer point of view being able to get low enough and remain comfortable in arms on bar position is a real benefit.

that is based purely on 95% of us racers not being flexible enough to get in that position, let alone stay in it for a long period of time.

 

so pro vs pro the benefit is nullified.

 

amateur vs amateur there is a benefit to the more flexible of us.

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to be fair, from an amateur racer point of view being able to get low enough and remain comfortable in arms on bar position is a real benefit.

that is based purely on 95% of us racers not being flexible enough to get in that position, let alone stay in it for a long period of time.

 

so pro vs pro the benefit is nullified.

 

amateur vs amateur there is a benefit to the more flexible of us.

I'm flexible enough to maintain it but it's still quite taxing to maintain. You're not really supported on the arms but rather your hips and lower back. It's not like in a TT psoitio where your forearm pads are actually supporting you.

 

But as footballer says, it's more the armchair cyclists having a hissy fit over the bans. Personally the drops are my favourite place so I've no skin in the game.

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Not really sure why any non-pros really care. Do what makes you ride your bike, if sitting on the top tube gives you a fizz, go for it, if wearing extra long socks tickles you, go for it. If you like popping a manual down hill, go for it.

 

I just dont understand the whole vibe of people claiming a victory for kiddie and amateur safety. UCI outlawed doping years ago, but that still happens with youngsters. 

Many non-pro vets care enough to dope. 

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If the CPA really cares about cyclist being role models and are willing to ban things in pursuit of this, surely they should petition to remove Moscon?

 

Great idea - you should send them an email.

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That supertuck position is just complete nonsense anyway. Makes almost no difference at all so I don’t really get why people are that bothered with it. 
 

The aero position on the handlebars though. I don’t get why this is banned. Also how are they gonna enforce this and what are the tolerances? There’s a lot of positions where you can rest your arms on the handlebars to get an aero position. So are they all banned? Are you not allowed to rest your arms in line with the hoods? This gives you a benefit as well and you have control of the bike. 

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That supertuck position is just complete nonsense anyway. Makes almost no difference at all so I don’t really get why people are that bothered with it. 

 

 

Because it's the ugliest thing ever seen on two wheels?

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That supertuck position is just complete nonsense anyway. Makes almost no difference at all so I don’t really get why people are that bothered with it. 

 

The aero position on the handlebars though. I don’t get why this is banned. Also how are they gonna enforce this and what are the tolerances? There’s a lot of positions where you can rest your arms on the handlebars to get an aero position. So are they all banned? Are you not allowed to rest your arms in line with the hoods? This gives you a benefit as well and you have control of the bike. 

 

My avatar on Zwift disagrees. 

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Because it's the ugliest thing ever seen on two wheels?

 

Agreed. This is why I’m pretty fine with them banning it. I gotta say though whenever I see an amateur doing it, I just find it hilarious. Firstly, you look like a proper douche and secondly, you’re not gonna get a wonderful prize at the end of the descent to make it worth the risk for that extra 1 sec you gained. Does my head in‍♂

 

My avatar on Zwift disagrees. 

UCI will probably ban this on Zwift next.

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Makes almost no difference at all so I don’t really get why people are that bothered with it. 

 

 

 

It’s still negligible. And that percentage gain will only really be relevant if the rider stays in that tuck position all the time. Most of the time they’re switching positions on the bike anyway going round switchbacks which negates any gain. 

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Silly question, that might not be so silly...

 

GCN toyed with the idea of a dropper seatpost on a roadbike a couple of years back.

 

It made a significant difference in the descending speed.

 

Will the teams now look at that as a real option? Bum stays on seat and you get to tuck nice and low, plus, if you do your component selection well the bike might even not be much heavier than the UCI weight limit anyways. :huh:

 

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