THULE BIKE RACK LIGHTS ISSUE

[tinmug]

You get those that tip nothing, those that tip precisely the right percentage and those that tip well. Play nice, it's only fair.

 

[Steady Spin]

16 hours ago, Jacques Joubert WC said:

Huh, don't negotiate? The salesman can say yes or no. I also need to keep money in my pocket by looking for the best possible deal 🤷 .. and that goes for everything I buy, not just cars.

Play the banks against each other for better interest rates rather. 

PS. Have you ever worked on commission? 

[ChrisF]

11 minutes ago, Steady Spin said:

Play the banks against each other for better interest rates rather. 

PS. Have you ever worked on commission? 

 

I have family that works on commission.  Sad to see (hear) some of the stories ....

 

We owe it to ourselves to do our homework and to get a good price.  But to then take "that price" and then litterally take food off the salespersons table is not good.

 

Even worse are those potential clients that test drives your cars/products and keeps you busy for weeks .... to then order that exact product from an outlet in a platteland dorpie that provides zero service, but simply undercuts the price by a few rand ..... 

 

 

There is a line between doing your due diligence, and wasting a good salespersons time .....

[ChrisF]

On 5/4/2023 at 9:19 AM, Meg85 said:

Hi Guys

I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction.

I have a tow bar installed on a VW T-Cross however, my Thule bike rack lights don't work when plugged in. It seems to work for the first few seconds and then just cuts off. I am thinking its either the car "computer" cutting off supply to the lights and needs an override or there is a short somewhere on the actual bike rack wiring and the car is picking this up - cutting off power to the rack electrics.

Do I go to an Auto Electrician? Thule? Who looks at bike rack wiring?

If anyone can shed some light or give me some ideas I would be grateful.

Thanks!

 

 

@Meg85 have you had any joy with the fitment centre ?  Or VW ?

 

Hope you get sorted without paying lots of school fees on this one

[Theunissa]

On 5/5/2023 at 8:07 AM, 117 said:

Its your earth connection to the car plug that is faulty which is not making a good connection, or a dry joint. 

Any towbar fitment centre will sort you out in a jiffy, or if you are confident with a small screwdriver, open the car plug yourself and ensure the connections are all good (Use Barry's drawing above, its the same for the car)

12v isnt complicated - but everyone tries to make it complicated in order to fleece you out of your hard earned beer coupons1

12v is simple yes, but wiring systems not so much. Especially these days. 

[RobertWhitehead]

So I also have a Thule bike rack and every time I plug mine in it blows the fuses of the car . Yes, I am aware that the wiring is causing a short and that I need to find the issue by doing so and so but you know what works even better? Not plugging it in 

[ChrisF]

18 minutes ago, RobertWhitehead said:

So I also have a Thule bike rack and every time I plug mine in it blows the fuses of the car . Yes, I am aware that the wiring is causing a short and that I need to find the issue by doing so and so but you know what works even better? Not plugging it in 

 

Your's is much easier to sort out than Meg's issue ... jammer jy is so ver.

[madmarc]

4 hours ago, The Ouzo said:

you would think so right. But thats not actually the case.

Salesman needs to sell x amount of units or he sits without a job. The bosses dont care if the salesman doesnt earn money because the dealership needs to sells y amount of units or they are in trouble with the importer. The importer doesnt care if the dealership makes money because they need to sell z amount of units or they are in trouble with the manufacturer.

In an ideal world the salesman stops giving discount when the negotiations get to low, but pressure to move product, and the fact that every Jacques, Brawler and Smitty will spend 2 hours with the salesman taking them through every detail they want with the car and then go and buy the same car down the road because they got it R500 cheaper means they only stop negotiations when the deals moves into a loss.

 

Your next argument will be , " then go and work somewhere else" . Well you see as a middle aged white male in south africa, despite being intelligent and well educated, thats easier said than done. Getting into this line of work was out of desperation to put food on the table, but the reality is there have been many months that due customers wanting to save the cost of a take away meal a month on their installments, only medical aid is covered at the end of the month. So excuse me if I get very upset when people make statements about playing dealerships up against each other.

Off topic But - 

I feel your pain - I belonged to a Sales Managers breakfast club a number of years back. there were 3 Sales Managers from 3 different well known vehicle brands, there biggest problem was sales staff retention, they couldn't believe us guys in the capital equipment game had sales staff with 15 - 20 years service, if you had 15 - 20 months service in their game you got a long service award.

We told them our secret - "We don't fire people for lack of sales, we manage and mentor them until they achieve their targets" Pffft they responded, we don't manage people we manage sales, that's why we are called sales managers.

Car sales industry is a rats nest of broken salesmen because they keep getting fired for not moving numbers. I gave one a job, he'd been fired 6 times in 3 years, couldn't understand why he was still in the job after 3 months of not hitting his target - today 9 years later he is still in the industry as one of the top performers and often gets hunted by competitor brands.     

[Shebeen]

On 5/5/2023 at 9:17 AM, DieselnDust said:

^^rhis is the correct action.

the tow bar module plugs into the cars ECU so it needs to be a VW approved part not a generic as they don’t work reliably.

if it is a vw approved loom then it’s like the earth connection and the cars ecu shutting down the circuit to the tow bar

VW cars are very common, and not particularly cheap. Thule bike racks are common and not particularly cheap.

Surely this would be a common (and not cheap) problem? Surely Thule racks tick every CE box possible? A car company limiting what you can plug into the tow bar is news to me (and a new low).

[DieselnDust]

7 hours ago, Shebeen said:

VW cars are very common, and not particularly cheap. Thule bike racks are common and not particularly cheap.

Surely this would be a common (and not cheap) problem? Surely Thule racks tick every CE box possible? A car company limiting what you can plug into the tow bar is news to me (and a new low).

Generic cable are eventually made available but usually not within the first 2-3 hrs a model is on the market

VW is one of the most locked in brands, actually that’s. It fair, they’re all like that now due to the integration of standard systems and the amount of after maker accessories available. They can’t control what the accessory manufacturers do but they can make them conform to VW standard 

[Meg85]

On 5/5/2023 at 6:44 PM, ChrisF said:

 

Which fitment centre ?

 

Brand of towbar ?

 

 

Reputable shops fitting Bosal should know what they are doing.

 

 

Towbars Cape .... bunch of blithering idiots !!!

 

Dealt with them once ... burnt that T-shirt 😡

 

 

Hope you get sorted

C&J Towbars (Bullbar Cape) their service is excellent.

 

Brink towbar fitted which according to them has a built in Module 

I have decided to book the car in VW tomorrow - see what they quote me or what the problem is.

I will report back once I have some answers.  

[Meg85]

On 5/6/2023 at 12:42 PM, ChrisF said:

 

 

@Meg85 have you had any joy with the fitment centre ?  Or VW ?

 

Hope you get sorted without paying lots of school fees on this one

See above post.

Decided to book into VW tomorrow

Will report back once I have an answer from them.

[Meg85]

19 hours ago, Shebeen said:

VW cars are very common, and not particularly cheap. Thule bike racks are common and not particularly cheap.

Surely this would be a common (and not cheap) problem? Surely Thule racks tick every CE box possible? A car company limiting what you can plug into the tow bar is news to me (and a new low).

Correct! My thoughts exactly! But it seems thats how they get you  

[117]

You like to throw money away... 

Go sit on the people that fitted it rather

[The Ouzo]

35 minutes ago, Meg85 said:

C&J Towbars (Bullbar Cape) their service is excellent.

 

Brink towbar fitted which according to them has a built in Module 

I have decided to book the car in VW tomorrow - see what they quote me or what the problem is.

I will report back once I have some answers.  

LED and incandescent bulbs dont play nice together on the same circuit, my guess is that you'll need to upgrade the racks lights to LED.

[Meg85]

24 minutes ago, 117 said:

You like to throw money away... 

Go sit on the people that fitted it rather

Its more of a worry in terms of the warranty being void. Nothing to do with me throwing money away.