Vetplant Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 AUS 290/1 * (42.3/50 ov) Warner is in a bludgieoning mood. Last 3 overs went for 13,13,19. Where will they end up? 400?
Vetplant Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 Definition of batting 360°: He can improve in his amount of runs down the leg side babse and Lexx 2
gemmerbal Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) Agreed. Just ask Graeme Joffe. Ain't gonna happen. The power-that-be are there only to serve their own agendas and line their pockets. We've seen this in other sports as well. Everyone know WP rugby and SARU is a mess, yet we only see the coaching staff getting the axe. CSA is no different. Edited June 20, 2019 by gemmerbal nonky 1
Shebeen Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) Disappointing thing is that they really did take this WC seriously. While this season we have played zim/aus/pak and SLanka we performed well there. SA in Australia Nov 20182-1 (and the one we lost was by 7 runs and we let it slip) https://www.espncricinfo.com/scores/series/18684/sa-in-aus-odis-2018-19 only real difference is that we don't have steyn, reeza and klaasen playing, and they have warner and smith back. Pakistan in SA - Jan 2019, SA won 3-2Sri Lanka in SA feb/March 2019 SA won 5-0 looking at the current stats quickly, and realising that we have played 6 games which is more than most.batting (ranking/runs scored in WC19)QdK (4/13)Faf(6/31)Amla (20/33)Miller (33/42)vd Dussen (+100/18th) Bowling (rankings/wickets taken in WC19)Tahir (4/9)Rabada (5/17)Phehl(20/13) it's not very scientific, but basically none of our players are performing to their potential and historical levels. We see england have been terrible at world cups, despite al the resources they have. Being bundled out by BAN in aus was seemingly the last straw, and without bringing in that many new players they have really transformed into a killing machine. The fact that we have their bowling coach who was a part of this movement is quite weird too! deciding game, big performance from faf and millerhttps://youtu.be/uCjy6-AMZ-g Edited June 21, 2019 by Shebeen
stefmeister Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 Disappointing thing is that they really did take this WC seriously. While this season we have played zim/aus/pak and SLanka we performed well there. SA in Australia Nov 20182-1 (and the one we lost was by 7 runs and we let it slip) https://www.espncricinfo.com/scores/series/18684/sa-in-aus-odis-2018-19 only real difference is that we don't have steyn, reeza and klaasen playing, and they have warner and smith back. Pakistan in SA - Jan 2019, SA won 3-2Sri Lanka in SA feb/March 2019 SA won 5-0 looking at the current stats quickly, and realising that we have played 6 games which is more than most.batting (ranking/runs scored in WC19)QdK (4/13)Faf(6/31)Amla (20/33)Miller (33/42)vd Dussen (+100/18th) Bowling (rankings/wickets taken in WC19)Tahir (4/9)Rabada (5/17)Phehl(20/13) it's not very scientific, but basically none of our players are performing to their potential and historical levels. We see england have been terrible at world cups, despite al the resources they have. Being bundled out by BAN in aus was seemingly the last straw, and without bringing in that many new players they have really transformed into a killing machine. The fact that we have their bowling coach who was a part of this movement is quite weird too! deciding game, big performance from faf and millerhttps://youtu.be/uCjy6-AMZ-g WC results shouldn't come as a surprise.As you said, Warner and Smith wasn't in the squad then, and Oz was a pretty demoralized team at that stage. That series win means as much as a Zim series win.Sri lanka is also at one of their worst performing streaks of late, and it seems Pakistan is following suit. So we were playing against very average teams.
Shebeen Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) WC results shouldn't come as a surprise.As you said, Warner and Smith wasn't in the squad then, and Oz was a pretty demoralized team at that stage. That series win means as much as a Zim series win.Sri lanka is also at one of their worst performing streaks of late, and it seems Pakistan is following suit. So we were playing against very average teams.I don't think you can say that winning in Aus was not impressive.India also beat them 2-1 in january, without smith and warner. Interestingly, smith has replaced handscomb, who was their best batsmen this summer but ja, sri lanka+pakistan not the toughest dress rehearsal more importantly, the guitar riffs all come off bats!https://www.cricketworldcup.com/video/1245456 Edited June 21, 2019 by Shebeen babse 1
Shebeen Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 manners not surprised - https://manners-on-cricket.com/ “A little bit surprising…” 21st June 2019 It may be nothing more than a product of age and experience but there seems to be far less point in conducting a post-mortem on this World Cup performance than on any of the six which preceded it from 1996 to 2015. Besides, there are still three games to go so performing a post-mortem on a body which is technically still alive would be creepy. The players who have under-performed this time around won’t play another World Cup and there will be a different selection panel for the next one. For all the determination to avoid sentimentality or the power of reputation in selecting squads for the game’s biggest event, they will always be there. Including Dale Steyn and Hashim Amla in the original 15 were gambles which back-fired. Steyn’s fitness let him down early enough to avoid any damage to the team but Amla’s decline in form has been the single biggest contributor to the team’s miserable failure to reach the semi finals. It is right and proper that he will be remembered as one of the greatest ODI batsmen of all time. He made himself available for selection for the World Cup when he was 18 months past his best and was averaging 23 compared his career average of almost 50 but he did not select himself so should not be blamed. The evidence to suggest he would not be a success was there for all to see. Both Amla and the selectors believed he would ‘come good’ and rise to the occasion. There was nothing but sentimentality and nostalgia to suggest that would actually happen, but they are powerful emotions and proved irresistible in this case. Most of us should be honest enough to admit that we, too, might have made the same call as convenor Linda Zondi and his colleagues. Amla’s innings against Afghanistan was painful to watch but harmless. It was hoped that 28 overs in the middle would help him regain form. But, after some time, form does not return. The great man has lost critical speed of reflex and clearly lacks stamina. His innings against New Zealand left the team 30-40 runs short of a par score and, though Amla was correct in assessing conditions as unfavourable for scoring boundaries, it was his lack of fitness that prevented him from running hard singles. Every other batsman apart from Rassie van der Dussen has also endured a horrible tournament so far but, for every year of their careers, Amla has been their yardstick, their (mostly) unofficial leader and their inspiration. It is not Amla’s ‘fault’ that a reduction in his own, personal capabilities had such a profound effect on the rest of the batsmen – far greater than merely his lack of runs or the slow rate at which he accumulated them. Head coach Ottis Gibson was given a hand-grenade of a contract when he started and he knows full well it won’t be renewed now. It has been said he wouldn’t accept an extension even if he was offered to him. He was given 18 months and told that he had to win the World Cup. It wasn’t even long enough to consider relocating from his home in England, so that is where he stayed between tours. Naturally he remained diplomatic after the New Zealand game but not diplomatic enough to leave anyone in doubt about what he really thought: “We had that language of being positive and aggressive and taking the game forward for a long time since I’ve been here,” he said. “To see, when we come to this stage, guys going into their shell a little bit is… a little bit surprising.” Perhaps it should not have been surprising at all. leeubok 1
Shebeen Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 WC results shouldn't come as a surprise.As you said, Warner and Smith wasn't in the squad then, and Oz was a pretty demoralized team at that stage. That series win means as much as a Zim series win.Sri lanka is also at one of their worst performing streaks of late, and it seems Pakistan is following suit. So we were playing against very average teams.say whaaaat?! england seem to be hitting proper banana peels this tournament. can they wn two knockout games in a row?
gemmerbal Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 So in theory we can still qualify after the poms lost to SL. Reality is we dont play cricket in THEORY but in REALITY. ???? babse and scotty 2
babse Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 Poms can very easily lose their next 3 games.SL and the bangys still well in it.
Eddy Gordo Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 The key to these perfomances for a world cup is to use hungry players. I think thats possibly why australia are doing so well. I can only surmise they have figured this out. I have always said to friends, you need fresh players, players who are hungry, been starved of games. Make them realise their place in the side is not permanent and if they dont perform they out. I didnt look at the stats of the oz team, but the players that they dropped. Were they starting to under perform?
babse Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) Afghans done well to restrict India to 224. So far they doing well with the chase. Really hoping for a good fight from the Windies too. If these 2 results go other than what is expected, it really opens the door for the "next best" teams Edited June 22, 2019 by babse Eddy Gordo 1
Shebeen Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 Afghans done well to restrict India to 224. So far they doing well with the chase. Really hoping for a good fight from the Windies too. If these 2 results go other than what is expected, it really opens the door for the "next best" teamsWith the games left, I don't see Australia,NZ and India not making it.As England need to pay these three sides, only if they lose all three is the door open for anyone else. Win our last three and we'd probably be the team to sneak it http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/27028627/live-report-india-v-afghanistan
'Dale Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 I’m dreaming of Bangladesh in the final ???????? Vetseun, Warthog and babse 3
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