weekly tss score

[awesme]

hehehe

 

 

People definitely do get fixated on numbers whilst ignoring some of the other numbers.

[J Wakefield]

 

 

People definitely do get fixated on numbers whilst ignoring some of the other numbers.

 

Numbers are 1 thing, but then knowing what to do with them is another. this is the part many people miss or don't understand.

[J Wakefield]

My question is to the people here who are focused and chasing TSS / IF etc, what happens when you riding on a Saturday and you see that for that specific ride that you want to get a certain TSS from is coming close or you have achieved that number, do you stop and get a Uber home?

Or if for example you have a 2 hour 10 x 30s max sprint set planned which is say 130TSS and halfway you feel you don't like it and it hurts your legs, do you then go ride at say 200W or a Zone 3 type effort for  the remainder of the time to get the TSS? 

[Jurgens Smit]

My question is to the people here who are focused and chasing TSS / IF etc, what happens when you riding on a Saturday and you see that for that specific ride that you want to get a certain TSS from is coming close or you have achieved that number, do you stop and get a Uber home?

 

Or if for example you have a 2 hour 10 x 30s max sprint set planned which is say 130TSS and halfway you feel you don't like it and it hurts your legs, do you then go ride at say 200W or a Zone 3 type effort for  the remainder of the time to get the TSS? 

 

I tend to ignore tss/if what not and ride on feel. (this does not include intervals on the IDT, these are done as per my schedule)

 

Long rides my avg and NP are normally in Tempo zone and I just focus on hitting my time goal ex 3/4/5 hours.

 

I don't think I've ever had a workout where I target a specific TSS.

[shaper]

My question is to the people here who are focused and chasing TSS / IF etc, what happens when you riding on a Saturday and you see that for that specific ride that you want to get a certain TSS from is coming close or you have achieved that number, do you stop and get a Uber home?

 

Or if for example you have a 2 hour 10 x 30s max sprint set planned which is say 130TSS and halfway you feel you don't like it and it hurts your legs, do you then go ride at say 200W or a Zone 3 type effort for  the remainder of the time to get the TSS? 

For me I cannot give you a definitive answer as I do not chase TSS... I do my riding or workouts based on what either my program or I want to achieve.  In Trainingpeaks I estimate what my TSS for that workout or 4 hr ride or whatever it is will be.  The actual TSS might be higher or lower on the day after I completed what I intended to do and do not watch TSS but just do what I set out to do.  What the TSS will be is often depending on how I fee that day.

 

TSS and CTL is only relevant for me with regard to predicting my fitness and form leading up to an event or race.... and that predicted CTL will adjust accordingly depending on what the actual TSS was for that workout or ride..... and to be honest TSS & CTL only becomes relevant a few weeks out from an event/race where I can get an idea with regard to where I am at and with tapering where I think my fatigue and form will be.

 

Then I need to look at all 3 numbers and never just TSS and attaining a TSS.  Personally throughout training ATL and TSB are more important numbers to keep and eye on for signs of over training or excessive fatigue which may indicate illness.

[Patchelicious]

Just trying to get a feel for what others are doing, not that it influences me, but i'm curious - whats your weekly/monthly tss? and avg IF?

Just to remind everybody that this thread was just about a curiosity of others TSS score.

 

Which is a far cry from people who are supposedly "obsessed" or "only chase" TSS.

 

Like:

 

Weight Thread:

hi guys, I was just wondering what other Hubbers weigh, I am 75kg and am not sure how that compares to other cyclists here?

 

a few pages later....

 

Why are people so obsessed with weight, its not the be all and end all of everything, BMI, DexaScans.... bla bla

 

another few pages later.....

 

Stop fat shaming, he has a thyroid issue OK!!

 

another few pages later......

 

Hitler

[Jakkals.]

Just to remind everybody that this thread was just about a curiosity of others TSS score.

 

Which is a far cry from people who are supposedly "obsessed" or "only chase" TSS.

 

Like:

 

Weight Thread:

hi guys, I was just wondering what other Hubbers weigh, I am 75kg and am not sure how that compares to other cyclists here?

 

a few pages later....

 

Why are people so obsessed with weight, its not the be all and end all of everything, BMI, DexaScans.... bla bla

 

another few pages later.....

 

Stop fat shaming, he has a thyroid issue OK!!

 

another few pages later......

 

Hitler

 

hahahah...

 

I think this thread was started with the intention of accountability.

 

Thats why I post...TSS...so you guys know I went riding...and IF...so you guys can call me out and say: "hey, you said recovery week, why the heck is your IF >0.7"

[J Wakefield]

Just to remind everybody that this thread was just about a curiosity of others TSS score.

 

 

Correct but that info and post from a Hubber is useless if all things aren't correctly measured or inserted to give a proper value.

 

Perfect example was shown yesterday which lead to others noting that and asking for correct way to get values so future posts are correct.

 

Its the hub, you always start with a post on Woolworths food and end up 7994 pages later with NASA launch codes.

[awesme]

... and we still haven't determined the right way to calculate weekly avg IF ????

 

G

[Jakkals.]

... and we still haven't determined the right way to calculate weekly avg IF

 

G

in GC, go to trends, select last week...lets leave the calculation for the developers

[Jakkals.]

... and we still haven't determined the right way to calculate weekly avg IF

 

G

easy, weekly NP/FTP

[Jaco-fiets]

When doing 4min efforts at V02 I personally tell athletes to go as hard as they can that is sustainable. Typically this is done at 115% + well thats what I prescribe to clients.

 

The importance comes in when doing those also to take into consideration is the recovery between each interval. I would prescribe 2.5-3min max between. I would also go to a minimum of 6 x 4 wth a max of 8 x 4. Not really 4 x 4. I use a 4 x 4min @105% during a taper type / pre race session.

 

The % of when a interval becomes useless is when you not hitting the required numbers or zones - typically if a athlete is 10% off I tell them to stop to a degree. There are many factors why but I use the 10% rule. Also if there is a drop from 1st to last of 10% +.

 

Hope this answers the question?

Totally! Thanks so much! Much appreciated

[Eugene Oppelt]

Correct but that info and post from a Hubber is useless if all things aren't correctly measured or inserted to give a proper value.

 

Perfect example was shown yesterday which lead to others noting that and asking for correct way to get values so future posts are correct.

 

Its the hub, you always start with a post on Woolworths food and end up 7994 pages later with NASA launch codes.

 

Chirp of the day

Hehehe

[cadenceblur]

Totally! Thanks so much! Much appreciated

the Hunter book about training with a PM gives the same advice, but specifies that one looks at the second interval as a benchmark, this is due to being fresh when completing the first. So if you've dropped by more than 10% from your second interval might as well call it.

[Jakkals.]

When doing 4min efforts at V02 I personally tell athletes to go as hard as they can that is sustainable. Typically this is done at 115% + well thats what I prescribe to clients.

 

The importance comes in when doing those also to take into consideration is the recovery between each interval. I would prescribe 2.5-3min max between. I would also go to a minimum of 6 x 4 wth a max of 8 x 4. Not really 4 x 4. I use a 4 x 4min @105% during a taper type / pre race session.

 

The % of when a interval becomes useless is when you not hitting the required numbers or zones - typically if a athlete is 10% off I tell them to stop to a degree. There are many factors why but I use the 10% rule. Also if there is a drop from 1st to last of 10% +.

 

Hope this answers the question?

Per Edwards' second video re ftp today vs ftp next week vs two weeks ago...I would assume then that you carry on with your workout and hit the best numbers you can for the timeframe, as your ftp could've drifted as per the video.

 

Thanks for sharing on the forum. Much appreciated.

[Jaco-fiets]

When you come back from a training ride which was suppose to be LSD for 3hrs but ended up being a 3hr IF of 0.91 then you know the rest of the wknd's planned training is pretty much screwed