Eddy Gordo Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 Wow, i thought by now one would not get any leaky sidewalls anymore especially with all the advances and new tech in cycling.I dont have any experience with Michelin mtb tyres. Popcorn skollie does, wonder if he had any leaks. Alouette3 1
Christofison Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 Eddy Gordo and other Michelin Wild enduro rear GumX 3d users: how much sealant and time was needed before the sidewalls stopped being porous? Rhetorical question really, as just more sealant and time will resolve the issue. Might be useful info to recall for those who will purchase the tyre, and then wonder why it's automagically deflating without an obvious cause. Been a very long time ago now that i had to deal with porous sidewalls. Can't see any sealeant bleeding out the pores, but some soapy water revealed the culprit causing my tyre to deflate within 48 hrs. And it's on a very specific section of the sidewall, the portion textured with lines highlighted below. michelin.jpeg These tyres are Tubeless Ready, so by definition, one can expect the sidewalls to be porous, as TLR refers only to the bead,not the rest of the carcass. Schwalbe has been spoiling me all these years, as their TLR SuperGravity tyres typically have zero sidewall bleeding.Maxxis exo+ sidewalls lost zero psi overnight before I even got around to adding sealant.
Capricorn Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 Wow, i thought by now one would not get any leaky sidewalls anymore especially with all the advances and new tech in cycling.I dont have any experience with Michelin mtb tyres. Popcorn skollie does, wonder if he had any leaks. oh it was the skollie! Totally i mis-remembered who been rocking the wild enduros. Maxxis exo+ sidewalls lost zero psi overnight before I even got around to adding sealant.The michelin thing is not an issue that warrants throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Definitely not going maxxis Eddy Gordo and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 2
Eddy Gordo Posted April 22, 2019 Posted April 22, 2019 After last weeks romp around in the rain, I can say that my wtb combo is just awesome in the dry and the wet. Grip for days2.5 convict upfront and 2.4 trailboss out back Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and Capricorn 2
Pieter1 Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 After last weeks romp around in the rain, I can say that my wtb combo is just awesome in the dry and the wet. Grip for days2.5 convict upfront and 2.4 trailboss out backOnly issue I have with wtb is it is a MISSION to get onto the rim. Honestly takes me hours. Or I’m doing something wrong. Eddy Gordo 1
Eddy Gordo Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 Only issue I have with wtb is it is a MISSION to get onto the rim. Honestly takes me hours. Or I’m doing something wrong.Yep, its a mission and a half. Try and heat it up, leave it in the sun for a few hours. Then lots of soapie water and an extra set of hands.
Pieter1 Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 Yep, its a mission and a half. Try and heat it up, leave it in the sun for a few hours. Then lots of soapie water and an extra set of hands.Last time it took 3 of us and some soapy water... After that I just got a Maxxis tire. I was gatvol.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) After last weeks romp around in the rain, I can say that my wtb combo is just awesome in the dry and the wet. Grip for days2.5 convict upfront and 2.4 trailboss out backYeah, I like WTB but haven't used em since my days on their Weirwolf & wolverine, which were amazing, albeit a bit soft on the casing side for my tastes. But that wasn't their WCS Tough casing, so it's to be expected. I've read really really good things on the Convict / Trailboss / Vigi. Edited April 23, 2019 by Captain Fatbastard Mayhem
patham Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 Eddy Gordo and other Michelin Wild enduro rear GumX 3d users: how much sealant and time was needed before the sidewalls stopped being porous? Rhetorical question really, as just more sealant and time will resolve the issue. Might be useful info to recall for those who will purchase the tyre, and then wonder why it's automagically deflating without an obvious cause. I used to run Michelins tubeless about 8 years ago when they were cheap on CRC. They had zero issues with sealing and holding pressure back then. That's progress for you!
Grease_Monkey Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 Last time it took 3 of us and some soapy water... After that I just got a Maxxis tire. I was gatvol.An evening of trying to remove a Vigilante and Weirwolf resulting in broken tyre levers, lots of swearing, and sealent everywhere about 2 years ago was the last time I used WTB! Loved the tyres, but the admin of mounting/removing them is just too much. Odinson and T-Bob 2
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 Eddy Gordo and other Michelin Wild enduro rear GumX 3d users: how much sealant and time was needed before the sidewalls stopped being porous? Rhetorical question really, as just more sealant and time will resolve the issue. Might be useful info to recall for those who will purchase the tyre, and then wonder why it's automagically deflating without an obvious cause. Been a very long time ago now that i had to deal with porous sidewalls. Can't see any sealeant bleeding out the pores, but some soapy water revealed the culprit causing my tyre to deflate within 48 hrs. And it's on a very specific section of the sidewall, the portion textured with lines highlighted below. michelin.jpeg These tyres are Tubeless Ready, so by definition, one can expect the sidewalls to be porous, as TLR refers only to the bead,not the rest of the carcass. Schwalbe has been spoiling me all these years, as their TLR SuperGravity tyres typically have zero sidewall/ bleeding.oooooooh.... Nice! how are tehy riding, though? I've been interested in these and the DH22's since I saw Sam running em.
Pieter1 Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 An evening of trying to remove a Vigilante and Weirwolf resulting in broken tyre levers, lots of swearing, and sealent everywhere about 2 years ago was the last time I used WTB! Loved the tyres, but the admin of mounting/removing them is just too much.Jis I just wanted to moer the whole wheel away... I enjoyed them when they were on tho but never again. Grease_Monkey 1
T-Bob Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 An evening of trying to remove a Vigilante and Weirwolf resulting in broken tyre levers, lots of swearing, and sealent everywhere about 2 years ago was the last time I used WTB! Loved the tyres, but the admin of mounting/removing them is just too much. Yup... there are shops for that and at R70 for mounting tyre, sealant and a free wash n' lube for the bike I'm happy to outsource that 'fun'. Duane_Bosch and Grease_Monkey 2
Grease_Monkey Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 Yup... there are shops for that and at R70 for mounting tyre, sealant and a free wash n' lube for the bike I'm happy to outsource that 'fun'. Until you have to do it trailside T-Bob 1
T-Bob Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) Until you have to do it trailside Yeah but as I'm pretty allergic to latex I'll be too busy trying to breath! True fact: I've never had a puncture on any of my mountain bikes for over 10 years. I know this as because it gets a bit spicy when I come in contact with stan or anything I'm not entirely sure what the hell I do apart from wait for a kind person to cover themselves in sealant on my behalf. Edited April 23, 2019 by T-Bob Hairy and Grease_Monkey 2
Capricorn Posted April 24, 2019 Posted April 24, 2019 oooooooh.... Nice! how are tehy riding, though? I've been interested in these and the DH22's since I saw Sam running em. Swapped out the HD on the rear for the Michelin. No discernible difference in rolling resistance, sidewall support, braking and grip when leaning it over.Still need to change over the MM upfront to Michelin as well. Will be more interesting then. Hairy and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 2
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