Brogue Posted March 31, 2014 Share We are far too pussy whipped to let them near here. Speak for yourself, I'm ambidextrous Edited March 31, 2014 by Brogue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evolve Posted March 31, 2014 Share If I was the bike shop owner...by now I would have banging on a door to give him a new bike take my fake back and then sort the shiet out, instead of this getting too public. Makes for better marketing than what's happening now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheV Posted March 31, 2014 Share Some are more fortunate than others, that doesn't mean Cycle Scientology (sic) is entitled to sell crap or rip people off, or even that the OP (or anyone for that matter) deserves a wallet-bashing. Perhaps his intention was to warn a concentrated community of cyclists not to make the same mistake at the same store as soon as possible, rather than go into minute detail about what he has done to recover his initial outlay or intends to do to seek compensation and justice. P.S: ASG have confirmed the frame is genuine chinarello, not merely a grey or parallel import. Ja, jislaaikit. Even the wheels and everything was fake... The seat post, the handlebar tape was not even made from real cork , we suspect it wasn't even a real handlebar. The only thing that was legit was the Shimanie Dhjura Eish group set. PS> just by the way, if you buy a Dogma without ever having visited their official website which actually warns you about fake frames, then what? http://www.pinarello.com/en/bike2014/road/dogma-65-1-world-champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post intern Posted March 31, 2014 Share Something gives me the feeling there is another side and/or additional or undisclosed aspects to this story. Amazingly, these types of Rants are so often started by new virgin OP accounts. Someone who had a Pina for 10+ years, buys a DOGMA, pays for TWO in a matter of months, first activity on thehub is a rant about how he got screwed. Secondly, the OP keeps on about "wide spread frame failures" of un-branded bikes. Which really has nothing to do with the fact that the bike is a fake. The emphasis on this aspect just makes me wonder what the the real story is.... The Op seems to act totally naive on one aspect, but on the other hand claims to have knowledge of mass failure of un branded frames? Also, the watches analogy makes no sense, because nothing gets more knocked off than a Rolex, and I'm certainly not going to shop for a Rolex at my friendly grocer. No matter how much I want to support my "local" grocer. This Op is the savior of every LBS. Not wanting to heckle pricing.... Really now? And somehow, some 50 y.o international jet setter with enough liquid cash monies for 2x Dogmas at " Retail " gets ripped off at this scale just smells funny to ME? WTF is wrong with you people? Ten minutes with Google will tell you that Andrew Armstrong, posting under his own name, is a senior executive in a multinational IT consulting business. People like this make serious money, so 90k for a bike is standard fare and if he got a fake, he will get another and then sort out the fake in his own time. You should be thanking the man for coming on here, UNDER HIS OWN NAME to warn other people of the ride he has been taken on. Little Fish, Oufy MTB (Roadie), Underachiever and 48 others 51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUMEYA Posted March 31, 2014 Share Who knew guys could talk so much *** and be so bitchy! Loving this. Cant remember what I did for entertainment before finding the hub. Do your wives read this? My wives can't read and sleep in the garage. Shiit that reminds me, the ones wheel needs truing. johannrissik, Audible Anarchy, TheV and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryn Posted March 31, 2014 Share Ja, jislaaikit. The only thing that was legit was the Shimanie Dhjura Eish group set. I bet you this oke was riding Campy Super Record. I put it to you that you are a conjecturist after all. TheV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meentb Posted March 31, 2014 Share The big question is where did the shop het the fake. Ordered it from china and built it up themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brogue Posted March 31, 2014 Share PS> just by the way, if you buy a Dogma without ever having visited their official website which actually warns you about fake frames, then what? http://www.pinarello...-world-champion Then you're unlucky to have walked into the one shop that saw you coming. Not everybody researches everything they buy to death before making a purchase. The store down the road would've sold the OP the genuine article and he would have blissfully happy despite never having visited Pina's website. This type of unsavory incident and business practise affects us all. He's obviously learned an expensive lesson, and doesn't want anyone else to make the same mistake. AS4, marko35s, Harryn and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johannrissik Posted March 31, 2014 Share And, unlike the guy at the robot selling some fake movies to support his family living in a shack, these guys probably made tens of thousands of rands on this one frame. I once bought a set of cleats at this store (it was convenient) I want to go and insert those cleats if I could find them in someone's sphincter. I wouldn't know a Pinarello from a Chinarello from a Gonococcal infection, but I do think you should consider re-doing the punctuation in that post before people start getting ideas about your searching habits.... Brogue, droo and Chris.ZA 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intern Posted March 31, 2014 Share I wouldn't know a Pinarello from a Chinarello from a Gonococcal infection, but I do think you should consider re-doing the punctuation in that post before people start getting ideas about your searching habits.... The gonners smells. Don't ask.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edition 507 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Everyone please calm the ****down. The bike in question is not a grey import, it is not even a 'fake' grey import, as, on closer inspection of the picture of the said bicycle, it is more a dark charcoal leaning towards a black sort of colour. Nonetheless, as is the case with a bottle blond, it is still very attractive until fully exposed. Vangar, thoughtforfood, YUMEYA and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live5 Posted March 31, 2014 Share I remember when I was a laaitjie - we ate chomps - kit kats were too expensive. Today I spend thousands on the next bright shiny thing that catches my attention with little or no consideration. Why because quite frankly I can. Cost is relative. Your R1000 is my R100 is a less fortunate persons R10. The fact that the bike is R91k is entirely relative not to your reality but to Andrews. If that is how he spends his money so freaking what, its his cash and sadly only for you it may be far less of a consideration than you buying a set of new brakes. Don't knock just because you can't do it. The fact that he is pissed is understandable and fully justified and the fact that he warns guys like me that in good faith and recently new to the game who would trust a shiny fronted shop is commendable. What I find ironic is that people passing comment and judging are the same guys that will come on here with their other 100000 post mates and bitch about the most arbitrary supposed slights they suffer and receive any number of shoulders to cry on. Andrew - unlike so many deeply gifted individuals who supposedly can sum up the entire circumstance of a situation based on two sentences - I accept at face value your warning. Thanks for letting us know and good luck from one of the dead ordinary okes here. Edited March 31, 2014 by Live5 EZRider, JanJan, Velo Racer and 46 others 49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryn Posted March 31, 2014 Share The big question is where did the shop het the fake. Ordered it from china and built it up themselves. Ya, nice business model. USD 600 on a frameset on AliExpress (free shipping) another 800 on a fake set of Boras and bar, blow zar 25k on a groupset, and unload it all for a cool 90k. Nice business if you can get it. But just wrong. NeoOne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaXiMuM Posted March 31, 2014 Share Who knew guys could talk so much *** and be so bitchy! Loving this. Cant remember what I did for entertainment before finding the hub. Do your wives read this?Please pass the popcorn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intern Posted March 31, 2014 Share I remember when I was a laaitjie - we ate chomps - kit kats were too expensive. Today I spend thousands on the next bright shiny thing that catches my attention with little or no consideration. Why because quite frankly I can. Cost is relative. Your R1000 is my R100 is a less fortunate persons R10. The fact that the bike is R91k is entirely relative not to your reality but to Andrews. If that is how he spends his money so freaking what, its his cash and sadly only for you it may be far less of a consideration than you buying a set of new brakes. Don't knock just because you can't do it. The fact that he is pissed is understandable and fully justified and the fact that he warns guys like me that in good faith and recently new to the game who would trust a shiny fronted shop is commendable. What I find ironic is that people passing comment and judging are the same guys that will come on here with their other 100000 post mates and bitch about the most arbitrary supposed slights they suffer and receive any number of shoulders to cry on. Andrew - unlike so many deeply gifted individuals who supposedly can sum up the entire circumstance of a situation based on two sentences - I accept at face value your warning. Thanks for letting us know and good luck from one of the dead ordinary okes here. Bang, bang, BANG on. Andrew has gone as far as to share correspondence with Pinarello and ASG AND a photo of his Chinarello, to get dumped on by 'TheV' and others. This is a man who won't resell the Chinarello out of principle so probably doesn't feel the 91k hole in his pocket as much as he feels the righteous ire of being ripped off. Big Wheel Cycles, thoughtforfood, Jigghead and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaXiMuM Posted March 31, 2014 Share ... Not everybody researches everything they buy to death before making a purchase... He did say he thought about it for 3 months. Went in, fondled it, etc... But researching for a fake? I can't say I have ever done that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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