Performance enhancing substances among amateurs

[Patchelicious]

Take away money and podiums and the guys will still cheat.

 

Difference will be that there will be more $$ for proper testing the pro athletes. 

Exactly, most of the guys who cheat, firstly can afford to do so, and secondly don't do it for the money, its for the ego, plain and simple.

[J Wakefield]

How would you know for sure? 

You hear stories.  You see amazing ups and downs. 

How do you know?  Get proof? 

 

And again........being amateur.....it really does not matter.  If being stupid and doing stupid just to fuel his or her ego is their thing, so be it.  I really don't care.

What I get out of my sport and training is what matters to me.

 

 

Correct. 

[Stricker]

I will be honest.

 

First things first :

I have never used Performance Enhancing Substances and will never do. 

 

That being said, if I should be tested , there might be something in my blood that's banned for some reason as I just don't see myself being competitive enough and honestly not taking it serious enough to scrutinize everything I consume.

 

I ride my bike because I love it, I ride hard/long get stronger etc etc all so that I can enjoy my cycling some more , yes I do ride VA/Cat1/A whatever the racing group is called and really enjoy the competition , but as a nonsponsored rider , I ride for me.

 

So as far as scrutinizing every little thing I consume.. cant see myself doing that anytime soon.

 

Above is just how I feel as a VA rider, probably would have been different story if I was an Elite(Age) with potential cycling career.  

 

My 2c

 

 

[Shebeen]

I will be honest.

 

First things first :

I have never used Performance Enhancing Substances and will never do. 

 

That being said, if I should be tested , there might be something in my blood that's banned for some reason as I just don't see myself being competitive enough and honestly not taking it serious enough to scrutinize everything I consume.

 

I ride my bike because I love it, I ride hard/long get stronger etc etc all so that I can enjoy my cycling some more , yes I do ride VA/Cat1/A whatever the racing group is called and really enjoy the competition , but as a nonsponsored rider , I ride for me.

 

So as far as scrutinizing every little thing I consume.. cant see myself doing that anytime soon.

 

Above is just how I feel as a VA rider, probably would have been different story if I was an Elite(Age) with potential cycling career.  

 

My 2c

I'm in this boat. and if I was caught for something then that would be ok as it is just carelessness on my part. They could throw the book at me and that is fine. 

 

I'm willing to take that chance, because the likelihood of even being tested is so low.

[mecheng89]

Watched it a few days ago and sadly now have no faith in any endurance sport being clean and fair.

Yes.

 

Do people (amateurs, semi-pros, pros) dope, and will they forever dope? No question. 

 

Can you trust the Russians? Nope. 

 

Is doping easy? Doesn't seem that way. 

 

SPOILER ALERT!

 

How could he do worse?     

 

Not an eye-opening documentary to be honest, we know this goes on out there. West and East Germans were PUMPED full of **** and it was obvious. Some of their records still stand!! 

[J Wakefield]

 

 

Not an eye-opening documentary to be honest, we know this goes on out there. West and East Germans were PUMPED full of **** and it was obvious. Some of their records still stand!! 

 

Do you believe any other athletes from the other countries they were competing against were clean?

[andydude]

I'm in this boat. and if I was caught for something then that would be ok as it is just carelessness on my part. They could throw the book at me and that is fine.

 

I'm willing to take that chance, because the likelihood of even being tested is so low.

Not having a go at you or stricker, but out of interest, why follow any rules then?

 

It's really not that difficult to check.

 

But I know there is a problem with supplements and contamination.

 

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[Tristand]

Do you believe any other athletes from the other countries they were competing against were clean?

 

Take a read in the history section for the following steroid, says volumes:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metandienone

[Tristand]

The Soviets had an edge which is often attributed to PEDs however

it was actually their discovery of periodization. That was an absolutely 

massive discovery that they kept secret for quite some time.

[Coolspin]

Watched Icarus, pitty it digressed into the whole Russian dope story, YAWN, anyone really suprised about how that went.

 

The original reason for the documentary was to see the difference in his results from inclusion of PED,s. Would have liked to have seen how that panned out.

 

As far as amateurs doping, couldnt give a crap, live and let live, if some dumbass thinks this gives him some sort of cred or ego boost etc then good for him.

 

" Clean" riders shouldnt let actions of others bug them.

 

Pro riders etc obviously another story re big cash and sponsor reputations etc at stake.

[Long Wheel Base]

https://twitter.com/CyclingNewz/status/928966393801912320

[JA-Q001]

https://twitter.com/CyclingNewz/status/928966393801912320

Why no screengrab?

 

Seems like tweet has been deleted

[jcza]

Why no screengrab?

 

Seems like tweet has been deleted

 

Probably Phil Gaimon wondering about Cancellara and mechanical doping to sell his new book 

[Long Wheel Base]

Why no screengrab?

 

Seems like tweet has been deleted

Damn sorry bud. 60 y/o bust for doping, claims his wife spiked his smoothie.

[Long Wheel Base]

Why no screengrab?

 

Seems like tweet has been deleted

I see the tweet is still there but the link in the tweet seems to have been modified

[Thor Buttox]

Damn sorry bud. 60 y/o bust for doping, claims his wife spiked his smoothie.

Interesting euphemism. But bonking does raise the testosterone levels, I suppose