BarHugger Posted January 23, 2015 Share Now where is the rider with a Ph(dot)D in single track..........pure pedigree GoLefty!! and javadude 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil6 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Agreed - the incident itself is far from concluded. But based on the behaviour surrounding it over the last two days I do not believe this is the place for the involved parties to find resolution - at least not in the current climate.Can you please post my reply on the Lisa thread? I will send you the telephone conversations and whats app and sms's later that I also want you to put on there. Then it's not anymore about he said she said, all the calls was recorded. Thanks Edited January 23, 2015 by Wil6 Meezo, Smurfy, SwissVan and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikkelz Posted January 23, 2015 Share I find the victimization of Lisa Kelsey so disgusting that I'm closing my account on this forum. Those involved should take a long hard look in the mirror. Only ONE person came out and apologized publicly. The rest of you worms either defended your actions or tried to suck a WOMAN into a dirty internet fight. One mention of the word Hub to most real riders will get eyes rolling and comments such as Keyboard Jockey flying. I can no longer be on this forum. It's just too embarrassing. For those of you who don't know Lisa is the sister in law of Myles Kelsey. A multiple SA champion and 2013 Masters World Champion. How many World Championship medals do you hero's have? Since when does "winning" anything make you morally better than another person? fabes, Skylark, Escapee.. and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rouxtjie Posted January 23, 2015 Share So you're taking one ladies version as gospel and upset at other people who took another's version as gospel? The personal threats aside (which I hope are followed up and see life time bans from the hub), there is still a long way to run on this incident. As the old saying goes, there are three sides to every story Good post Andrew...me, I am still on the Wil side of the fence...why? What was advertised was not what was delivered....the rest are all opinions with he said / she said scenarios. The right thing to do, is refund wil or at very least help him sort the problem out...make an arrangement of sorts. I also find myself in the same boat as Omega, however it is for the total opposite reason. Andrew Steer, fabes, Smurfy and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idiot Posted January 23, 2015 Share i ignored that thread...and Im going to ignore this oneyou not ignoring it by posting here.. How about throwing in a picture or 2 for the guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock Posted January 23, 2015 Share ja, the hub is losing it a bit for me - 10 year itch maybe, hope things cool down soon....... SwissVan and DawieO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Karma Posted January 23, 2015 Share Good post Andrew...me, I am still on the Wil side of the fence...why? What was advertised was not what was delivered....the rest are all opinions with he said / she said scenarios. The right thing to do, is refund wil or at very least help him sort the problem out...make an arrangement of sorts. I also find myself in the same boat as Omega, however it is for the total opposite reason. sê net dis oor jy my te veel verlang... Edited January 23, 2015 by Karma rouxtjie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock Posted January 23, 2015 Share In fact we need a doping thread, that usually helps..... T-Bob and Smurfy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabes Posted January 23, 2015 Share Agreed - the incident itself is far from concluded. But based on the behaviour surrounding it over the last two days I do not believe this is the place for the involved parties to find resolution - at least not in the current climate.Agreed that the incident itself is far from concluded Disagree that this is not the place for involved parties to find resolution. Wil6 has said he is taking this as school fees so he is not looking for money however Lisa responded with her version and now Wil6 doesn't get the opportunity to respond back. That is not fair. You should open the thread and have some strict moderation around there whilst the thread is still open. Also things will be heated for the reason that someone has parted with R 24000 and didn't exactly get what they were paying for samson99, Smurfy, rouxtjie and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwan Kemp Posted January 23, 2015 Share I find the victimization of Lisa Kelsey so disgusting that I'm closing my account on this forum. ...Respect your decision, but I fail to see what this will accomplish and how this is The Hub's fault? It's just a platform. Just as Hebdo was just scapegoat for someone's character / conviction - same here. Threads made were not on - agreed. But you can't blame an online forum for what people say. If anything, the ones stepping over the line should be dealt with. I won't let anyone think less of me 'cause I'm a Hubber. And if they do, it won't bother me one bit. Alas:http://media0.giphy.com/media/5sZGdcOyrom64/giphy.gif Omega Man, it would be sad to see you go as a result of this, but after some of the behaviour witnessed I can't blame you or anyone else. This issue and others of late have highlighted the need for some drastic change with regard our forums in particular. It has forced a serious reflection on whether some of the behaviour aligns with the fundamentals of where we started and why the forums exist. It's sad to say that I've been embarrassed to be behind a platform that has bred such nastiness and contempt. The stretches far beyond the comments made in the Lisa Kelsey thread. We need some serious change and fast... So let's deal with what and who needs dealing with. Swift action is what's needed. Not another thread discussing another thread about a thread that was made. Hairy, RocknRolla, Wil6 and 12 others 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubehunter Posted January 23, 2015 Share Good post Andrew...me, I am still on the Wil side of the fence...why? What was advertised was not what was delivered....the rest are all opinions with he said / she said scenarios. The right thing to do, is refund wil or at very least help him sort the problem out...make an arrangement of sorts. I also find myself in the same boat as Omega, however it is for the total opposite reason. Indeed R, the facts presented so far show many discrepencies. I too am more in Wil's camp for those same reasons, but how can anyone have open lines of communication and get to workable resolution for both parties when they have to first swim through all the public opinion that has been spewed all over the site in the past 2 days??? Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idiot Posted January 23, 2015 Share ja, the hub is losing it a bit for me - 10 year itch maybe, hope things cool down soon.......Apparently you must put socks on before underpants.. DIPSLICK and Blackbeard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 23, 2015 Share Can you please post my reply on the Lisa thread? I will send you the telephone conversations and whats app and sms's later that I also want you to put on there. Then it's not anymore about he said she said, all the calls was recorded. Thanks The matter needs to be resolved, but yesterday proved that this forum is not an appropriate channel for it. No constructive resolution will come from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milosh Posted January 23, 2015 Share Omega Man, it would be sad to see you go as a result of this, but after some of the behaviour witnessed I can't blame you or anyone else. This issue and others of late have highlighted the need for some drastic change with regard our forums in particular. It has forced a serious reflection on whether some of the behaviour aligns with the fundamentals of where we started and why the forums exist. It's sad to say that I've been embarrassed to be behind a platform that has bred such nastiness and contempt. The stretches far beyond the comments made in the Lisa Kelsey thread. We need some serious change and fast... A suggestion is that the sale and dealer feed back section are set to mod/admin approval Yes we need to know about bad deal , but don't all need to chip in with 2c ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubehunter Posted January 23, 2015 Share snipped So let's deal with what and who needs dealing with. Swift action is what's needed. Not another thread discussing another thread about a thread that was made. Matt, this is your only option to restore any faith for both new and old users who intend using this platform for the reasons you created it! I respect that you guys let some things slide in the name of banter and not wanting to have to police the site and every post, but some people are playing in the off sides area more often then not. Sort that out and this type of event looks after itself! Edited January 23, 2015 by Tubehunter Smurfy and Wannabe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinson Posted January 23, 2015 Share Sorry Eldron I fail to see relevance between having sporting success and what one's personality is like, perhaps you'd like to enlighten me? @Omega sure Lisa got a raw deal from the Hub justice society but is leaving the Hub the best way to resolve what you obviously feel is a shortcoming of the Hub? Should you not rather stay and be a part the Hub and trying to get people to see reason or have much needed impartiality? You need to have your Sarcasm Detector calibrated, boet. It's readings seem to be way off. Eldron, nonky, fabes and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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