Ethics in classifieds!?

[Slowbee]

If a seller has decided what price he wants to sell and there is a willing buyer, there is no rip off...Was this bike worth R23k. Probably. Is it worth R32k for 2011 model. Well lets see if it sells...I bet on NO CHANCE.

Sorry say what you will. I still think its all in bad taste. But nothing illegal or evil. We all make up our own minds where to buy and what we prepared to pay.

There is a bit more than pure economics...Being comfortable with a buyer or seller is part of the buying process. If there is zero trust between the buyer and seller, chances are there won't be a transaction.

that very fine thin line between need and want..... cause if you want it, you will even overlook the integrity rule

[The expat cyclist]

If a seller has decided what price he wants to sell and there is a willing buyer, there is no rip off...Was this bike worth R23k.

WHAT?

So the original buyer sold the bike for R23.5k - no rip off.

But if the re-seller sells it for R32.5k (Willing buyer, willing seller) it is a rip off?

Huh???

 

EDIT: Oh and I do agree that when "feelings/emotion" is brought into economics, it is no longer economics.

It is called remorse.

Edited February 9, 2017 by The real MJ

[Grey Hubs]

WHAT?

So the original buyer sold the bike for R23.5k - no rip off.

But if the re-seller sells it for R32.5k (Willing buyer, willing seller) it is a rip off?

Huh???

 

EDIT: Oh and I do agree that when "feelings/emotion" is brought into economics, it is no longer economics.

It is called remorse.

Bud, take your B hairs out of your chain sprocket. Yes, exactly what I'm saying. I guess when a shop has a sale, you ETHICALLY refuse to buy because you ripping them off??

 

Without emotive drive everyone would be riding the same cheap bike. Economics is not the only reason people buy on the Hub...

No remorse here. I landed up with a better buy from a willing seller...  There is always another bargain around the corner   

I would say that we are dragging this ONE event out longer than necessary.

Time for another cup of coffee

[Skylark]

 

 

WHAT?

So the original buyer sold the bike for R23.5k - no rip off.

But if the re-seller sells it for R32.5k (Willing buyer, willing seller) it is a rip off?

Huh???

 

EDIT: Oh and I do agree that when "feelings/emotion" is brought into economics, it is no longer economics.

It is called remorse.

You are implying there is nothing else to business but money, definitely for some people it is that way, generally I try avoid them at all costs.

 

Also chill bro, why so worked up, is there maybe something you need to tell us?

[zaney]

If a seller has decided what price he wants to sell and there is a willing buyer, there is no rip off...Was this bike worth R23k. Probably. Is it worth R32k for 2011 model. Well lets see if it sells...I bet on NO CHANCE.

Sorry say what you will. I still think its all in bad taste. But nothing illegal or evil. We all make up our own minds where to buy and what we prepared to pay.

There is a bit more than pure economics...Being comfortable with a buyer or seller is part of the buying process. If there is zero trust between the buyer and seller, chances are there won't be a transaction.

[zaney]

The problem with the buying and selling is not so much the people willing to pay the price, what's questionable is that not everyone has the opportunity to constantly watch the classifieds. So when others get home fron work for example, and really do need a bargain most of the bargains have been snapped up for resale at a higher price later on. It may be business, but a bit inconsiderate for a community forum

Edited February 9, 2017 by zaney

[Sepia]

The problem with the buying and selling is not so much the people willing to pay the price, what's questionable is that not everyone has the opportunity to constantly watch the classifieds. So when others get home fron work for example, and really do need a bargain most of the bargains have been snapped up for resale at a higher price later on. It may be business, but a bit inconsiderate for a community forum

And how would you consider this to be changed......?

[Super_mil]

The problem with the buying and selling is not so much the people willing to pay the price, what's questionable is that not everyone has the opportunity to constantly watch the classifieds. So when others get home fron work for example, and really do need a bargain most of the bargains have been snapped up for resale at a higher price later on. It may be business, but a bit inconsiderate for a community forum

 

You can setup notifications in the classifieds section so that you are notified immediately after a particular item is listed. So if you're looking for brakes, a hardtail etc. then check the relevant boxes and you'll be notified every time a new item within that category is listed.

 

If you expect the 'community' to wait for you to get home from work to consider a bargain then you're going to miss out every time sadly.

[Patchelicious]

I understand why people are pissed at them for doing it , but please just accept it and move on.

 

 

Or go buy every bargain on the site and keep it on your garage just so they can't resell it.

I think that's the point.

 

People are accepting it, but that doesn't mean that they must agree with it.

 

And if part of the process of accepting it, is by voicing their ethical concerns, then so be it, we need to accept that too

Edited February 9, 2017 by Patchelicious

[The expat cyclist]

I think that's the point.

People are accepting it, but that doesn't mean that they must agree with it.

And if part of the process of accepting it, is by voicing their ethical concerns, then so be it, we need to accept that too

Accepted.

[carbon29er]

That's the question. Do you differentiate the classifieds from the forum community or are they the same thing? Personally I rarely, if ever, look at the classifieds, even when I lived in SA, but would be interested to know if there is a large contingent that looks at the classifieds and has zero interest in the community aspect?

You'll be amazed at how many hubbers there are who joined 5 or more years ago and have zero posts who respond to well priced items for sale. So yes, there is.

[BrandonF_]

we are in A capitalistic market.

 

And trust me when A capitalist sees A gap to make money he/she WILL take it. Thats how people become rich. To them its business thats all , no place for emotion.

[Nakoota]

To my earlier post.

 

I've been looking for a decent bike that I could afford for my wife for the past 6 months or so. Sunday night I catch an add within 40 minutes of posting and arrange to see the seller immediately. All is planned at his earliest convenience for Wednesday night only for him to tell me at 14:00 on Wednesday that he's already sold it.

 

Said bike was up for R10000.00 and is now on bike market listing with a healthy 68% markup - R16800.00.

 

How long till the market realises they are ripping every single purchaser off and stops supporting them. It is impossible to get a second hand bike at a fair price at the moment with all the relisting - no wonder their stock levels are so high.

 

[worriesnot]

R10k for that bike was a very good price.

You snooze you loose...

don't come whine on here because you lost out on a good deal.

[Nakoota]

If no one whined on a Friday you'd have nothing to do trolling forums at 22:00 would you?

[worriesnot]

If no one whined on a Friday you'd have nothing to do trolling forums at 22:00 would you?

 

nope (and it's 21:51 by the way) 

 

Stick around till 00:00 and everything turns to pumpkin!

Edited February 10, 2017 by worriesnot