flat29 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Garmin without a doubt and the FR35 TomTom is bluetooth and unless you are going to go full on with the bluetooth architecture it is limited as well as the battery life Fitbit Ionic, new on the block and already has issues with connectivity to your phone/app. Plenty written online already where you have to unpair/repair and fiddle to get the data to transfer. Vivoactive or FR35 depending on whether preference is for round or square face. About to be released Garmin FR645 and 645 Music. Not sure when it will be available here https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2018/01/garmin-forerunner-645-music-gps-watch.html My preference is Garmin, it works and has great backup service.thanks alot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddaman Posted January 10, 2018 Share haha I know. There goes my cycling timejoin us. there is a halfway house called duathlon........... flat29 and seven 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Kaze Pete Posted January 10, 2018 Share Talking of ASA licenses. I am getting a bit miffed by the delays in issuing the 2018 licences. As I was not licensed last year, I have to pay a temporary licence for each race until ASA sorts out their mess........My running club sent an e-mail where-in they confirmed that ASA stated that 2017 license numbers can be used up to 31 January 2018... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8MUD Posted January 10, 2018 Share Good day all you runners. M wife wants to start running again. I would like your help with a new watch for her.She will be using it on the indoor trainer and out on the road. The optionsTomtom runner 3https://www.tomtom.com/en_za/sports/running-watches/ Fitbit ionichttps://www.fitbit.com/ionic Garmin Vivoactive HRhttps://www.garmin.co.za/prod_detail_vivoactiveHR.php?productid=627 Garmin forerunner 35http://www.garmin.co.za/prod_detail_forerunner-35.php?productid=649 I have a FR 35. Very happy with it. It has now been replaced by the FR30 "the upgrade" but they have taken out some functions and it is now more running orientated. But the price is less. Less then 3K at Sportmans Warehouse Does have a treadmill setting.Screen very easy "readable" when running (much better than my Garmin 410) FR 35 does have pacing and interval and some other settings. Two of the functions taken out that was stupid is. (as far as I understand) FR 30 does not have "Cycling" mode anymore. FR 30 only does wrist based HRM and can not connect via ANT+ to a chest strap (The FR35 can) Buy a FR 35 If you can. Was last on sale at Sportsman's Warehouse for around 3K Battery lasts me a week. Sync to my Garmin Connect App on my Phone and track many things like calories and steps and sleep and ext. If you wear it as a watch. Runs and rides automatically sync to Strava from Garmin Connect. Garmin Connect also sync with MyFitnesspal app if you want to log calories eaten and calories in/out Hope this helps. Cannot comment on the other products. Edited January 10, 2018 by IH8MUD flat29, seven and Pulse 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Stuart Posted January 10, 2018 Share Good day all you runners. M wife wants to start running again. I would like your help with a new watch for her.She will be using it on the indoor trainer and out on the road. The optionsTomtom runner 3https://www.tomtom.com/en_za/sports/running-watches/ Fitbit ionichttps://www.fitbit.com/ionic Garmin Vivoactive HRhttps://www.garmin.co.za/prod_detail_vivoactiveHR.php?productid=627 Garmin forerunner 35http://www.garmin.co.za/prod_detail_forerunner-35.php?productid=649If she's using it for basic runs and daily tracking then the Tom Tom Spark is a great watch. The music and headphones make an excellent package and there are other nice motivation features, like virtual racer (as opposed to virtual pacer) which you'll only find in the 6xx and higher Garmins. Where Garmin really jumps ahead of the pack is the custom apps that can be installed for free from their 'store'. The customised running screens, pacers, etc. make it a much more runner oriented watch. Note that you can't customise your data screens at all on the Tom Tom. However, the Connect IQ (the custom installable apps) feature isn't available on the FR35 as far as I'm aware. I've found that the Garmin and the Tom Tom are pretty close in terms off around 10 hour activity recording battery life. You'll maximise it by turning off Bluetooth and even more so if you turn off HR. Both watches can synch to Strava automatically and both are recognised by Discovery Vitality, if you use it. I don't know anything about Fitbit so can't comment on that. So out of the watches you mentioned I personally think the Tom Tom offers more at better value. From the FR235 and up, however, Garmin is streets ahead. My watch to wait for will be the Garmin 645. It looks like everything I've loved about my 235 but with the features I'm jealous of, like music, waypoints and Strava Live. Edited January 10, 2018 by Barry Stuart IH8MUD, flat29 and Pulse 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted January 10, 2018 Share My watch to wait for will be the Garmin 645. It looks like everything I've loved about my 235 but with the features I'm jealous of, like music, waypoints and Strava Live. It looks like price wise the 645 will be closer to the 935 price. For that price I might rather get the 935 for the multi-sport functionality, but then you don't get the music... Hmmm, difficult one Barry Stuart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Stuart Posted January 10, 2018 Share It looks like price wise the 645 will be closer to the 935 price. For that price I might rather get the 935 for the multi-sport functionality, but then you don't get the music... Hmmm, difficult oneI gather then that the 645 will offer multiple sports but not a multisport mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted January 10, 2018 Share SureBut just be prepared to pitch up at your marathon undertrained. Soooo which marafun are we you aiming for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mats Posted January 10, 2018 Share Soooo which marafun are we you aiming for?The Vaal sufferfest will be my first attempt at a marafun.Not chasing a time, only a finish. Barry Stuart, Andrew Steer, Hacc and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted January 10, 2018 Share The Vaal sufferfest will be my first attempt at a marafun.Not chasing a time, only a finish. Joh that's quite soon...rather you than meI ran that many years ago...in the good ole days Hope your training goes well!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted January 10, 2018 Share I gather then that the 645 will offer multiple sports but not a multisport mode?That is how I understand it as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudsimus Posted January 11, 2018 Share Tomtom is getting out of the wearable market, this includes their gps watches. Although Im sure they will still provide support for a while. The problem is that updates might be an issue pretty soon, definitely not a way I will go. Why not look at Suunto? You can pick up the Ambit range at insanely cheap prices, its all you will ever need for running with great battery life as well. Pieter-za, Lexx and flat29 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g3n151d3 Posted January 11, 2018 Share ...snip... Why not look at Suunto? You can pick up the Ambit range at insanely cheap prices, its all you will ever need for running with great battery life as well. I have an Ambit3 with the chest strap hrm. Upgraded from a TomTom Runner to this. Great watch - Suunto has an app store as well, gps accurate, great battery life - I have it on the "best gps" setting (think it's every second or something) and it last a whole week that includes about 7-8 hours of activities. Lexx and Pieter-za 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter-za Posted January 11, 2018 Share Or Polar M430 etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted January 11, 2018 Share I also have a Suunto. Battery life is incredible.. Pulse, g3n151d3 and flat29 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat29 Posted January 11, 2018 Share I have a FR 35. Very happy with it. It has now been replaced by the FR30 "the upgrade" but they have taken out some functions and it is now more running orientated. But the price is less. Less then 3K at Sportmans Warehouse Does have a treadmill setting.Screen very easy "readable" when running (much better than my Garmin 410) FR 35 does have pacing and interval and some other settings. Two of the functions taken out that was stupid is. (as far as I understand) FR 30 does not have "Cycling" mode anymore. FR 30 only does wrist based HRM and can not connect via ANT+ to a chest strap (The FR35 can) Buy a FR 35 If you can. Was last on sale at Sportsman's Warehouse for around 3K Battery lasts me a week. Sync to my Garmin Connect App on my Phone and track many things like calories and steps and sleep and ext. If you wear it as a watch. Runs and rides automatically sync to Strava from Garmin Connect. Garmin Connect also sync with MyFitnesspal app if you want to log calories eaten and calories in/out Hope this helps. Cannot comment on the other products. thanks for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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