V12man Posted March 29, 2016 Share Apparently steering is not as important as braking...They did leave the mechanicals in as a backup for emergencies (although how exactly you engage it is a mystery to me) .... clearly they don't have full confidence yet... Interestingly one of my mates has a forllift which has pretty much complete drive by wire everything - guess they don't think a forklift can do that much damage - but I can see the benefit of ultra light steering for a forklift driver after a long shift. Halfdoesyn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfdoesyn Posted March 29, 2016 Share They did leave the mechanicals in as a backup for emergencies (although how exactly you engage it is a mystery to me) .... clearly they don't have full confidence yet... Interestingly one of my mates has a forllift which has pretty much complete drive by wire everything - guess they don't think a forklift can do that much damage - but I can see the benefit of ultra light steering for a forklift driver after a long shift. Yup, I think safety is not the issue. Think Airbus. It is probably cost and consumer confidence. I'm really sorry for this digression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocknRolla Posted March 29, 2016 Share guess they don't think a forklift can do that much damage - famous last words.... nonky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpelser Posted March 29, 2016 Share I'd rather get a mechanically doped bike that will make my 36t feel like a 50t on climbs. Should be cheaper too! BSG and nonky 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted March 29, 2016 Share I'd rather get a mechanically doped bike that will make my 36t feel like a 50t on climbs. Should be cheaper too! no, i would rather walk than ride an e bike RocknRolla, intern and ChUkKy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V12man Posted March 29, 2016 Share no, i would rather walk than ride an e bikeI rode Stefan Sahms at the epic around the camp as a test - what a toy - so I call bs on walking once you have tried it... shaper, Jakkals. and nonky 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intern Posted March 29, 2016 Share problem is that if the big spenders go large and always accept the spiraling costs as "acceptable" it just screws over the rest of us poor plebs who cringe at the price of a simple tube or entry level deore 10spd cassette (R790.00 BTW for a deore cassette with the updated pricing from shimano) ....... things are getting to a point where I am thinking to sell all the bikes and build up a rough and rugged do-it-all hardtail running (think Hungry Monkey or On-One 456 650b frame) as a SS with the option of using gears on occasion if the need arises.All this rapid pace of development means you need to keep a keen eye on the classifieds, heaps of bargains to be had as the 'latest greatest' okes dispose of their brand new hardly used 1x10//1x11//2x10//3x9//etc stuff SwissVan and nonky 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlvN Posted March 30, 2016 Share Will this make the Contermanskloof Mast climb easier? Then, and only then would this be worth it for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted March 30, 2016 Share Will this make the Contermanskloof Mast climb easier? Then, and only then would this be worth it for me...Nothing will make that climb easier... KarlvN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted March 30, 2016 Share I rode Stefan Sahms at the epic around the camp as a test - what a toy - so I call bs on walking once you have tried it...as a commuter bike yes, on the trails no. Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTBeer Posted March 30, 2016 Share e-bike = motorbike. same same. Hairy and ChUkKy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted March 30, 2016 Share e-bike = motorbike. same same.bicicletta wiff a motor. Doesn't matter what powers it - unicorn farts or the tears of your wasted enemies - it's still a moto. Hairy, KarlvN, Lefty V and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V12man Posted March 30, 2016 Share as a commuter bike yes, on the trails no.Just think how much fun you can have on trails going uphill when you add 350w - Stefan was having so much fun you could not wipe the smile off his face - even after he clipped a tree... I think there is a place for them - especially for the older guys (80+) so they can keep up going uphill. nonky, Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and KarlvN 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTBeer Posted March 30, 2016 Share Just think how much fun you can have on trails going uphill when you add 350w - Stefan was having so much fun you could not wipe the smile off his face - even after he clipped a tree... I think there is a place for them - especially for the older guys (80+) so they can keep up going uphill.With the cost of a hip replacement, I think 80 year olds should be more worried about going downhill than uphill. ChUkKy, nonky and Hairy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabe Posted March 30, 2016 Share All this rapid pace of development means you need to keep a keen eye on the classifieds, heaps of bargains to be had as the 'latest greatest' okes dispose of their brand new hardly used 1x10//1x11//2x10//3x9//etc stuff Can I point you okes to my advert of my 2x10 stuff for sale? nonky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V12man Posted March 30, 2016 Share With the cost of a hip replacement, I think 80 year olds should be more worried about going downhill than uphill. - I like to ride with my Dad - he can go downhill just fine..... (ok - he straightlines a lot of corners...) but uphill is a bit of a battle for him (he gets there in the end, but feels bad about holding us up) He did manage to outlast me over the weekend bodysurfing - froze myself stupid in about 45min.... took him another hour to get out the water while I froze on the beach in the wind... the 80+ crowd can be tough. nonky and MTBeer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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