This is why motorists get annoyed

[Stretch]

Photo or it didnt happen...

and face the firing squad of driving and photographing..no thanks!..lol

[AdamA]

Just common sense that cyclists going 30km/hr should move over for motorists going 60km/hr.

 

 

.... As a result experienced commuters move into the middle of the lane at left hand bends. ....

 

Hi Carbon, I think these two comments go hand in hand.

 

At a left hand bend/turn/slipway both cyclist and Motorist will be doing about the same speed so there is very little obstruction by either vehicle, therefore it is the safest option, provided you are visible - Lights, HiViz etc and indicate your intention to move into the lane and indicate your intention to turn left.

 

However after the turn, if the cyclist remains in the lane doing less than 30 km per hour, he (or she) now begins to obstruct the traffic and we land up back at the Opening Post, blocking the road and annoying motorists.

 

Personally I find this works best when turning left...

• Indicate well in advance of turning left 
• Check for traffic behind you
• if there is a motorist behind you also turning left indicate you are going to move into the land and go wide
• after the turn move to the left and make way for them.
• Raise your hand to say thank you. This is normally greeted with the same gesture or a light hoot.

[rorydewet]

Why do we assume it was taken with a phone

 

Lots of vehicles nowadays have dash cams.

 

Garmin even has one which also is used as a GPS navigator, I have one in my bakkie.

 

However the pic was taken it doesn't detract from the bad sense shown by these guys.

[Pure Savage]

Why do we assume it was taken with a phone

 

Lots of vehicles nowadays have dash cams.

 

Garmin even has one which also is used as a GPS navigator, I have one in my bakkie.

 

However the pic was taken it doesn't detract from the bad sense shown by these guys.

 

My FIL has one of those, he has not caught one you tube worthy clip yet and he drives a lot!

 

Those things are pricey though!! 

[Pure Savage]

I read an interesting tweet that in Holland in the driving test in order to open the door you must use your hand furthest away from door, this makes you turn your head and look before you open the door, stops all door accidents. 

 

Such a clever, small change that makes a big difference. Being doing it all day, works well.

[soconnor]

The laws don't need to change its peoples attitudes ,its just plain common sense for cyclists to stay as far left of the road or from moving cars as possible not rocket science some people are just plain clueless and give the sport a bad name.

[carbon29er]

I read an interesting tweet that in Holland in the driving test in order to open the door you must use your hand furthest away from door, this makes you turn your head and look before you open the door, stops all door accidents. 

 

Such a clever, small change that makes a big difference. Being doing it all day, works well.

And plenty of tweets stating it is BS. The best one stating that we are just taught to watch out for cyclists.

[Pure Savage]

And plenty of tweets stating it is BS. The best one stating that we are just taught to watch out for cyclists.

 

Regardless of what people think it works, as you have to rotate your shoulders to look behind. You physically cannot open the door without looking behind you!

[Reinhardt89]

And plenty of tweets stating it is BS. The best one stating that we are just taught to watch out for cyclists.

It is true, I was at the mobility indaba this last few days and spoke to some Dutch people about that rule.

[worriesnot]

Regardless of what people think it works, as you have to rotate your shoulders to look behind. You physically cannot open the door without looking behind you!

 

It is true, I was at the mobility indaba this last few days and spoke to some Dutch people about that rule.

 

Just asked my cousin who lives in Utrecht, Netherlands to ask her fiance about this - he is Dutch. She says she'll check with him, but he doesn't have a drivers licence... does have 4 bicycles though... 

[Patchelicious]

Whatever it is the Dutch do, do that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Legalise.........

[eddy]

The laws don't need to change its peoples attitudes ,its just plain common sense for cyclists to stay as far left of the road or from moving cars as possible not rocket science some people are just plain clueless and give the sport a bad name.

It may not be rocket science, but some like you still get it wrong.

 

Staying "as far left of the road" is not where a cyclist is safest. It gives the cyclist no room to manoeuvre and drivers do not acknowledge their presence.

 

And as for your assertion that cyclists are responsible for staying away from moving cars, I have no words.

[jcza]

Highly annoyed today

 

3 recyclers with trolleys on Braam Fischer this morning taking up at least half a lane, cars queuing behind them.

Taxis turning from non-turning lanes at every intersection.

Pedestrians all over the road and not crossing at clearly demarcated pedestrian crossings.

Countless drivers on their mobile phones.

 

Thought I would share my thoughts, feeling better already.

[Headshot]

It may not be rocket science, but some like you still get it wrong.

 

Staying "as far left of the road" is not where a cyclist is safest. It gives the cyclist no room to manoeuvre and drivers do not acknowledge their presence.

 

And as for your assertion that cyclists are responsible for staying away from moving cars, I have no words.

Yup precisely. His attitude is what i commented on in my last post. Not the brightest. 

[carbon29er]

It is true, I was at the mobility indaba this last few days and spoke to some Dutch people about that rule.

Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story. It was at a conference so it must be true.

 

I better find the gullibility virus link, looks like it needs to circulate a bit more.

 

 

https://www.quora.com/Is-it-a-law-in-the-Netherlands-that-the-driver-of-a-car-has-to-open-their-door-with-their-right-hand

 

I'm happy to be proved wrong with a reference to the law or an instruction manual.

[dave303e]

submit it to snopes and let them do the investigation