Patchelicious Posted April 13, 2017 Share First official Vets start, VC.Will have to see how it goes You couldn't have picked an easier first Vets race. This race usually finishes in a bunch sprint. If anybody gets dropped from their group in this race, go home and train harder. Long Wheel Base and nonky 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinnekop Posted April 13, 2017 Share You couldn't have picked an easier first Vets race. This race usually finishes in a bunch sprint. If anybody gets dropped from their group in this race, go home and train harder.4 x VA's got away 70km to go last year....Wonder if we can sucker the VB's like that this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted April 13, 2017 Share 4 x VA's got away 70km to go last year....Wonder if we can sucker the VB's like that this year?That race neutralization fiasco? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 13, 2017 Share Am I missing something with the route finish... "This takes the race off the late morning busy sections in Rondebult Road and brings the event back into Emperors via Griffith Road. Out of Jet Park the event does a .right turn into Yaldwin Road, followed by a left into Taljaard and left again into Jones road to reach the finish, which is at the same spot as the start." If we go right on Yaldwyn, we never go up to Griffith? We did Griffith last year I think? Sent from my SM-G925F using TapatalkThe plan for last year was to finish on Griffith, but the quality of the road along the railway line prevented it. that text is probably a cut-n-paste from last year. The route is supposed to be the same as last year - for the 97km. You couldn't have picked an easier first Vets race. This race usually finishes in a bunch sprint. If anybody gets dropped from their group in this race, go home and train harder.There was a break of 4 in VC last year, and a bunch sprint for 5th (4 minute adrift). 4 x VA's got away 70km to go last year....Wonder if we can sucker the VB's like that this year?I'm on #Wheelsucking duty this year Spinnekop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcza Posted April 13, 2017 Share In 2015 VC caught VB which meant that VB was neutralised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted April 13, 2017 Share You couldn't have picked an easier first Vets race. This race usually finishes in a bunch sprint. If anybody gets dropped from their group in this race, go home and train harder. 4 x VA's got away 70km to go last year....Wonder if we can sucker the VB's like that this year? There was a break of 4 in VC last year, and a bunch sprint for 5th (4 minute adrift). http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/10/Breaking-bad-Facepalm-Headache-OMG-Oh-my-god-So-stupid-Stupid-You-suck-For-fucks-sake-FFS-GIF.gif Are we really going to have to now debate the difference between a break away winning and getting dropped from the main group? pe3nguin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryvdM Posted April 13, 2017 Share Seeding Schmeeding.... let your seeding drop a bit, get forced a few groups back... solo attack your batch 100km out and Jens Voigt it! Go home broken and satisfied. Much more fun than sucking wheel and rolling over the line with 100 other people who are all worried about their golf handicap. With a EL start, I'm going to have to be doing this. Patchelicious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Monster Posted April 13, 2017 Share You couldn't have picked an easier first Vets race. This race usually finishes in a bunch sprint. If anybody gets dropped from their group in this race, go home and train harder.That was the plan. No real impact on seeding, as R4V is usually my best seeding, and also at the wrong part of my training plan. Hope to stay near the front and see the difference between AL & VC. Patchelicious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veebee Posted April 13, 2017 Share hoping to wheelsuck my way to a sub 2:30 from BL :ph34r: Javas X, AryM and nonky 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonky Posted April 13, 2017 Share In 2015 VC caught VB which meant that VB was neutralised. JCZA, Please explain this comment some more. Sorry, I don't understand all the roadie nuances yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcza Posted April 13, 2017 Share JCZA, Please explain this comment some more. Sorry, I don't understand all the roadie nuances yet. Start groups at 5 min intervals VAVBVCetc... Group closes 5 min gap and catches group that started aheadCommissaire will then neutralise group caught and allow second group to overtake and continueOnce second group is ahead race will be resumed Long Wheel Base 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetplant Posted April 13, 2017 Share Start groups at 5 min intervals VAVBVCetc... Group closes 5 min gap and catches group that started aheadCommissaire will then neutralise group caught and allow second group to overtake and continueOnce second group is ahead race will be resumedMakes sense. What happens when you have a breakaway group up the road in VB and the Main Group gets caught by VC? Is the breakaway group pulled back or allowed to extend their advantage while the Main Group is neutraized? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PietSw Posted April 13, 2017 Share The plan for last year was to finish on Griffith, but the quality of the road along the railway line prevented it. that text is probably a cut-n-paste from last year. The route is supposed to be the same as last year - for the 97km. There was a break of 4 in VC last year, and a bunch sprint for 5th (4 minute adrift). I'm on #Wheelsucking duty this year My First VA race.. so Im also #wheelsucking.. holding on for dear life. If you see a guy with a white Trek in Black Albion kit... be nice please, you where all newbies at one stage. Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Wheel Base Posted April 13, 2017 Share Makes sense. What happens when you have a breakaway group up the road in VB and the Main Group gets caught by VC? Is the breakaway group pulled back or allowed to extend their advantage while the Main Group is neutraized?Nope, If there is a break and the main group gets caught then they messing around anyway and would never have caught the break. Vetplant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcza Posted April 13, 2017 Share Makes sense. What happens when you have a breakaway group up the road in VB and the Main Group gets caught by VC? Is the breakaway group pulled back or allowed to extend their advantage while the Main Group is neutraized? It becomes a total mess. This happened with ladies group at 94.7. The ladies in the chasing group got towed back to the leading lady and she lost her advantage, although she briefly extended her advantage while the rest were neutralized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Wheel Base Posted April 13, 2017 Share hoping to wheelsuck my way to a sub 2:30 from BL :ph34r:Now that you are old, Come race vets sometime. We did a 2h 11m last year in VA. Veebee and W@nna-BE 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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