Patchelicious Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 First official Vets start, VC.Will have to see how it goes You couldn't have picked an easier first Vets race. This race usually finishes in a bunch sprint. If anybody gets dropped from their group in this race, go home and train harder. nonky and Long Wheel Base 2
Spinnekop Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 You couldn't have picked an easier first Vets race. This race usually finishes in a bunch sprint. If anybody gets dropped from their group in this race, go home and train harder.4 x VA's got away 70km to go last year....Wonder if we can sucker the VB's like that this year?
Patchelicious Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 4 x VA's got away 70km to go last year....Wonder if we can sucker the VB's like that this year?That race neutralization fiasco?
Frosty Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 Am I missing something with the route finish... "This takes the race off the late morning busy sections in Rondebult Road and brings the event back into Emperors via Griffith Road. Out of Jet Park the event does a .right turn into Yaldwin Road, followed by a left into Taljaard and left again into Jones road to reach the finish, which is at the same spot as the start." If we go right on Yaldwyn, we never go up to Griffith? We did Griffith last year I think? Sent from my SM-G925F using TapatalkThe plan for last year was to finish on Griffith, but the quality of the road along the railway line prevented it. that text is probably a cut-n-paste from last year. The route is supposed to be the same as last year - for the 97km. You couldn't have picked an easier first Vets race. This race usually finishes in a bunch sprint. If anybody gets dropped from their group in this race, go home and train harder.There was a break of 4 in VC last year, and a bunch sprint for 5th (4 minute adrift). 4 x VA's got away 70km to go last year....Wonder if we can sucker the VB's like that this year?I'm on #Wheelsucking duty this year Spinnekop 1
jcza Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 In 2015 VC caught VB which meant that VB was neutralised.
Patchelicious Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 You couldn't have picked an easier first Vets race. This race usually finishes in a bunch sprint. If anybody gets dropped from their group in this race, go home and train harder. 4 x VA's got away 70km to go last year....Wonder if we can sucker the VB's like that this year? There was a break of 4 in VC last year, and a bunch sprint for 5th (4 minute adrift). http://gifsec.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2014/10/Breaking-bad-Facepalm-Headache-OMG-Oh-my-god-So-stupid-Stupid-You-suck-For-fucks-sake-FFS-GIF.gif Are we really going to have to now debate the difference between a break away winning and getting dropped from the main group? pe3nguin 1
GaryvdM Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 Seeding Schmeeding.... let your seeding drop a bit, get forced a few groups back... solo attack your batch 100km out and Jens Voigt it! Go home broken and satisfied. Much more fun than sucking wheel and rolling over the line with 100 other people who are all worried about their golf handicap. With a EL start, I'm going to have to be doing this. Patchelicious 1
Blue Monster Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 You couldn't have picked an easier first Vets race. This race usually finishes in a bunch sprint. If anybody gets dropped from their group in this race, go home and train harder.That was the plan. No real impact on seeding, as R4V is usually my best seeding, and also at the wrong part of my training plan. Hope to stay near the front and see the difference between AL & VC. Patchelicious 1
Veebee Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 hoping to wheelsuck my way to a sub 2:30 from BL :ph34r: AryM, Javas X and nonky 3
nonky Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 In 2015 VC caught VB which meant that VB was neutralised. JCZA, Please explain this comment some more. Sorry, I don't understand all the roadie nuances yet.
jcza Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 JCZA, Please explain this comment some more. Sorry, I don't understand all the roadie nuances yet. Start groups at 5 min intervals VAVBVCetc... Group closes 5 min gap and catches group that started aheadCommissaire will then neutralise group caught and allow second group to overtake and continueOnce second group is ahead race will be resumed Long Wheel Base 1
Vetplant Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 Start groups at 5 min intervals VAVBVCetc... Group closes 5 min gap and catches group that started aheadCommissaire will then neutralise group caught and allow second group to overtake and continueOnce second group is ahead race will be resumedMakes sense. What happens when you have a breakaway group up the road in VB and the Main Group gets caught by VC? Is the breakaway group pulled back or allowed to extend their advantage while the Main Group is neutraized?
PietSw Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 The plan for last year was to finish on Griffith, but the quality of the road along the railway line prevented it. that text is probably a cut-n-paste from last year. The route is supposed to be the same as last year - for the 97km. There was a break of 4 in VC last year, and a bunch sprint for 5th (4 minute adrift). I'm on #Wheelsucking duty this year My First VA race.. so Im also #wheelsucking.. holding on for dear life. If you see a guy with a white Trek in Black Albion kit... be nice please, you where all newbies at one stage. Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk
Long Wheel Base Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 Makes sense. What happens when you have a breakaway group up the road in VB and the Main Group gets caught by VC? Is the breakaway group pulled back or allowed to extend their advantage while the Main Group is neutraized?Nope, If there is a break and the main group gets caught then they messing around anyway and would never have caught the break. Vetplant 1
jcza Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 Makes sense. What happens when you have a breakaway group up the road in VB and the Main Group gets caught by VC? Is the breakaway group pulled back or allowed to extend their advantage while the Main Group is neutraized? It becomes a total mess. This happened with ladies group at 94.7. The ladies in the chasing group got towed back to the leading lady and she lost her advantage, although she briefly extended her advantage while the rest were neutralized.
Long Wheel Base Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 hoping to wheelsuck my way to a sub 2:30 from BL :ph34r:Now that you are old, Come race vets sometime. We did a 2h 11m last year in VA. Veebee and W@nna-BE 2
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