Jakkals. Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 You obviously don't do enough drugs. 150grams for R40k is a bloody good deal.I'm in the wrong game
ChrisF Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Hang on a sec. Your wife has a R10k mtb and you wanna buy a bike for R130k? Before you make your decision, spend R40k on a new bike for your wife. Then decide if you can afford/need the s-works. Not being critical of the op, but it is such a male thing to undermine woman's sport and express this financially. okayyyy, close enough to Friday ... I will take the bait Few years back I bought a second hand motorcycle - BMW 650 GS. Husband wanted the new 1200GS Adventure ... to sooth his consience he buys his wife a new motorbike as well ... trading her 650GS in for the new 800 model .... Pretty sure he felt chuffed that he did not undermine her growth ..... But then again ...- Both bikes bought on debt, both previous bikes still had outstanding debt ... ooo, sorry wrong thread- her 650 had the sum total 1 500 km on the clock, in about 18 months !! But, hey let's make more debt because she needs a new bike ..... sorry, but how he and she spend their money may just possibly be a reflection of HER will to ride, or lack of it ..... I KNOW that I have TRIED to get my wife into cycling ..... even considered an e-bike for her .... not her thing But as Patch has said, a couple of times, none of these posts answer the OP's question .... in fact I think only 2 or 3 replies out of 8 pages applies ....
Paulst12 Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 I definitely want to... It's just that the financial manager (a.k.a. my lovely wife) doesn't quite see it that way! She is super happy on her R10k GT Zaskar.But you arent buying it for her... and what she doesnt know wont hurt her
Edition 507 Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 OP comes here to ask bicycle advise and gets called a sexist.... W the ACTUAL F! You gotta just love the hub don't you! Let me throw in my 10 cents worth of sexist advice. Spoil the wife with a new bike and make her happy (she must just cringe being seen on a R10k clunker), as a result you will get to ride her more often, you'll be more satisfied and you won't have a need for a R130k totie extension anymore
GrahamS2 Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Hang on a sec. Your wife has a R10k mtb and you wanna buy a bike for R130k? Before you make your decision, spend R40k on a new bike for your wife. Then decide if you can afford/need the s-works. Not being critical of the op, but it is such a male thing to undermine woman's sport and express this financially.
Grease_Monkey Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Hang on a sec. Your wife has a R10k mtb and you wanna buy a bike for R130k? Before you make your decision, spend R40k on a new bike for your wife. Then decide if you can afford/need the s-works. Not being critical of the op, but it is such a male thing to undermine woman's sport and express this financially. Yeah... I went the route of buying my wife a very expensive bike (upgrade from her mid range bike) before getting myself a second one because I felt it unfair to spend so much on myself and not her. To this day she says she cannot feel the difference between the bikes and that cycling is no more/less fun for her. Now I am not saying that all women are like this - so please don't misunderstand me here.... But the OP said his wife is very happy on her 10k bike. If this is truly the case, whatever money he would spend on a better/more expensive bike for his wife would be a waste - especially when it seems she does not want it. Absolutely different story if she wants a 40k bike, and is stuck with a 10k bike because the guy wants a 130k bike... Point I am trying to make is that not everyone wants an expensive bike - my wife for one was just as happy on her 2006 26" hardtail as she is on her shiny carbon Camber. Besides that... maybe the OP's wife has a hobby where she has a 130k ______ (fill in the blank), and the OP has a 10k clunker.
Spinnekop Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 You Specialized riders are a bunch of weird fickle ........
Patchelicious Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Came across this earlier, thought it was relevant here. https://www.facebook.com/OfficialCyclingPorn/videos/1786134148080174/
NicoBoshoff Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Hang on a sec. Your wife has a R10k mtb and you wanna buy a bike for R130k? Before you make your decision, spend R40k on a new bike for your wife. Then decide if you can afford/need the s-works. Not being critical of the op, but it is such a male thing to undermine woman's sport and express this financially.I know right? I mean, depending on a man to buy her the bike she needs to achieve what she is capable of is what's truly empowering...
rudi-h Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 "Success makes so many people hate you. I wish it wasn't that way. It would be wonderful to enjoy success without seeing envy in the eyes of those around you". Marilyn Monroe. I had an S-Works Camber and now ride an S-Works Epic. It is also very unlikely that I will ever win any major title and I most certainly don't have the largest tottie... But I did do my homework and 99% of the replies here are either missing the point or plain stupid. Are there better bikes? Probably. And - if you have the cash, one must assume that you can also afford all the silly alternatives being suggested? I love tech stuff, and with the S-Works you get more than "just" the few extra bits mentioned above, like wheels, a better carbon frame and a "few carbon bits". Virtually every component is "better" - as in everything. What is the point in buying a "lesser" bike and then swopping the saddle, the wheels, etc... that is like buying a BMW 320d and fitting other wheels, then believing you have an M car! Fact is, like it or not, that the S-Works is worth the sum of it's parts. Are the parts worth it, that is your choice? For me they are - my bike is fast, reliable, awesome to ride and makes me happy, and... imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Remember - no amount of makeup will make a donkey into a racehorse I think you're overstating how much better an S-works model is compared to the Expert... In your BMW comparison there is a 150+ kW difference between a 320 and a M3, including a fancy brand name sound system, completely different suspension tuned for racing, waaay better brakes (as in double the performance), improved finishes, improved safety features, latest traction control and engine management tech etc. So if you compare a 320i with a M3 you literally buy 40% more performance / enjoyment which is almost proportionally aligned with the difference in cost. A bike is a lot simpler and blindfolded I'll challenge you to find (even by comparing your power data) more than a 5% difference between the two bikes on all levels combined. So the 40%+ increase in price only buys you at best a 5% increase in performance / enjoyment / reliability. So it's not an argument of changing a donkey into a racehorse, it's more like choosing between a racehorse that wins every time to a racehorse that picks up a few 2nd and 3rd places along the way.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 "Success makes so many people hate you. I wish it wasn't that way. It would be wonderful to enjoy success without seeing envy in the eyes of those around you". Marilyn Monroe. I had an S-Works Camber and now ride an S-Works Epic. It is also very unlikely that I will ever win any major title and I most certainly don't have the largest tottie... But I did do my homework and 99% of the replies here are either missing the point or plain stupid. Are there better bikes? Probably. And - if you have the cash, one must assume that you can also afford all the silly alternatives being suggested? I love tech stuff, and with the S-Works you get more than "just" the few extra bits mentioned above, like wheels, a better carbon frame and a "few carbon bits". Virtually every component is "better" - as in everything. What is the point in buying a "lesser" bike and then swopping the saddle, the wheels, etc... that is like buying a BMW 320d and fitting other wheels, then believing you have an M car! Fact is, like it or not, that the S-Works is worth the sum of it's parts. Are the parts worth it, that is your choice? For me they are - my bike is fast, reliable, awesome to ride and makes me happy, and... imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Remember - no amount of makeup will make a donkey into a racehorse Sigh. You're right, but you're also wrong. It's not just S Works vs Expert. It's also Camber vs Stumpy. Therefore the answer is not what he can afford, even though that would be the answer if he were to be choosing between 2 cambers or stumpies. It's which bike suits his riding style more. For me, that's the stumpy. More versatile, more composed on the rough stuff and still an exceptional pedaller. Use the 40k saving to upgrade the wheels and other bits to ones he really wants and add in a few skills sessions or a holiday overseas, and you're golden. For him, the camber may be the right choice. Determine which bike you want first. THEN choose the model. If you want the Stumpy, buy the frame set and build it up to your spec. You don't HAVE to buy a full bike. Buying a camber s works just because you can't get a stumpy s works is a stupid decision to make. Buying a camber s works because you really want a Camber and can afford the s works is not a stupid decision. To put it differently. If you really wanted a Merc G63 but they only had the G500, you wouldn't buy a GLA63 just to get the AMG badge.
Traveler Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Why not an S-Works Enduro Coil Carbon? http://enduro-mtb.com/en/specialized-enduro-coil-29-review/
BaGearA Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 OP comes here to ask bicycle advise and gets called a sexist.... W the ACTUAL F! This video made my day
Kalahari Vegmot Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Nee vet okes! Wat die ou vir sy vrou koop is tussen hulle. He asked for advice on what bike to get, not if his marriage is doing ok
Grease_Monkey Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Sigh. You're right, but you're also wrong. It's not just S Works vs Expert. It's also Camber vs Stumpy. Therefore the answer is not what he can afford, even though that would be the answer if he were to be choosing between 2 cambers or stumpies. It's which bike suits his riding style more. For me, that's the stumpy. More versatile, more composed on the rough stuff and still an exceptional pedaller. Use the 40k saving to upgrade the wheels and other bits to ones he really wants and add in a few skills sessions or a holiday overseas, and you're golden. For him, the camber may be the right choice. Determine which bike you want first. THEN choose the model. If you want the Stumpy, buy the frame set and build it up to your spec. You don't HAVE to buy a full bike. Buying a camber s works just because you can't get a stumpy s works is a stupid decision to make. Buying a camber s works because you really want a Camber and can afford the s works is not a stupid decision. To put it differently. If you really wanted a Merc G63 but they only had the G500, you wouldn't buy a GLA63 just to get the AMG badge. Wise words these. I would also much rather Stumpy (any model) over an S-Works in a bike I don't really want. But that's just me... Maybe the Camber is the right bike for you. Like Myles said, just don't buy the Camber just for the S-Works badge, first choose the right model, then after that build kit.
Omumborombonga Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 S-works Enduro. Now there is a rather nice bike.
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