The Veganism Thread

[Rocket-Boy]

Hehe the veganazi terms being thrown around are hilarious, its no wonder society hates vegans so much.

It is possible *gasp* to have your own beliefs and follow your own dietary choices without bashing ever else who doesnt agree with you.

Its tantamount to bible bashing and everyone knows how well that goes down.

[Thor Buttox]

Hehe the veganazi terms being thrown around are hilarious, its no wonder society hates vegans so much.

It is possible *gasp* to have your own beliefs and follow your own dietary choices without bashing ever else who doesnt agree with you.

Its tantamount to bible bashing and everyone knows how well that goes down.

Jurasalem is not just an artichoke.

[Odinson]

Hehe the veganazi terms being thrown around are hilarious, its no wonder society hates vegans so much.

It is possible *gasp* to have your own beliefs and follow your own dietary choices without bashing ever else who doesnt agree with you.

Its tantamount to bible bashing and everyone knows how well that goes down.

 

RB, I mean this sincerely, have you taken the time to reflect on why it is that vegans advocate? 

[Eldron]

Hehe the veganazi terms being thrown around are hilarious, its no wonder society hates vegans so much.

It is possible *gasp* to have your own beliefs and follow your own dietary choices without bashing ever else who doesnt agree with you.

Its tantamount to bible bashing and everyone knows how well that goes down.

It's flesh right? From an animal...

 

One man's delicious veal cutlets is another man's dissected baby cow. Both are technically correct.

[GrahamS2]

RB, I mean this sincerely, have you taken the time to reflect on why it is that vegans advocate? 

Much like with religion and other 'isms, the (valid) message content is often lost in all the mouth frothing.

[GrahamS2]

Finally, common sense prevails. https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/crime/parents-sentenced-over-neglect-of-child-on-veganonly-diet/news-story/68bedf9fd1b86a2e04864c27349233d2

 

Such a pity public floggings are no longer allowed

Edited August 22, 2019 by GrahamS2

[stefmeister]

Hehe the veganazi terms being thrown around are hilarious, its no wonder society hates vegans so much.

It is possible *gasp* to have your own beliefs and follow your own dietary choices without bashing ever else who doesnt agree with you.

Its tantamount to bible bashing and everyone knows how well that goes down.

 

Someone should just rename this thread to The Vegan Safe Space.

[Eldron]

Someone should just rename this thread to The Vegan Safe Space.

To be fair it's the meat eaters campaigning for the word "flesh" to be considered hate speech.

 

Personify my butchered cow baby personify it that I may partake of it's flesh I mean delicious cutlets to nourish body as per god's instruction that I, HUMAN have domain over all of his creatures!

[stefmeister]

To be fair it's the meat eaters campaigning for the word "flesh" to be considered hate speech.

 

Personify my butchered cow baby personify it that I may partake of it's flesh I mean delicious cutlets to nourish body as per god's instruction that I, HUMAN have domain over all of his creatures!

 

You're being biased in this, and being deliberately obtuse. Which is not really consistent with your overall postings on this forum.

 

It's about the intent behind those terms. Not the words itself. Pretty obvious, and pretty obvious someone is trying to get a reaction when he's using them. A little too trying too hard, too attention seeking, and kinda cringy.

 

And just for that, I'm going to brutally slaughter some baby cows, rip off the skin, cut their corpses to pieces, drain their blood and enjoy the liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti. 

[Chris_]

You're being biased in this, and being deliberately obtuse. Which is not really consistent with your overall postings on this forum.

 

It's about the intent behind those terms. Not the words itself. Pretty obvious, and pretty obvious someone is trying to get a reaction when he's using them. A little too trying too hard, too attention seeking, and kinda cringy.

 

And just for that, I'm going to brutally slaughter some baby cows, rip off the skin, cut their corpses to pieces, drain their blood and enjoy the liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti. 

 

Ah you're drinking already, now it makes sense.

[stefmeister]

Ah you're drinking already, now it makes sense.

No, listening to Cannibal corpse.

[Odinson]

You're being biased in this, and being deliberately obtuse. Which is not really consistent with your overall postings on this forum.

 

It's about the intent behind those terms. Not the words itself. Pretty obvious, and pretty obvious someone is trying to get a reaction when he's using them. A little too trying too hard, too attention seeking, and kinda cringy.

 

And just for that, I'm going to brutally slaughter some baby cows, rip off the skin, cut their corpses to pieces, drain their blood and enjoy the liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti. 

 

I'm triggered by the fact that you assume my gender. 

 

Kidding aside, the intent is clear. Not to use comforting euphemisms. I stated that clearly in my post to Tours. 

[Eldron]

You're being biased in this, and being deliberately obtuse. Which is not really consistent with your overall postings on this forum.

 

It's about the intent behind those terms. Not the words itself. Pretty obvious, and pretty obvious someone is trying to get a reaction when he's using them. A little too trying too hard, too attention seeking, and kinda cringy.

 

And just for that, I'm going to brutally slaughter some baby cows, rip off the skin, cut their corpses to pieces, drain their blood and enjoy the liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.

Liked and prayers sent.

 

Your dedication to passive aggressive cowardice is truly inspiring.

[100Tours]

RB, I mean this sincerely, have you taken the time to reflect on why it is that vegans advocate? 

 

Call me slow, but..

 

This is probably the most important learning on this thread - i.e. vegan advocacy - because it seems fundamental to the definition of vegan. Vegans (Odinson, you'll let me know if I'm wrong..?) quite strongly believe it is wrong for anyone to eat meat (or wear leather shoes, wollen jerseys, down jackets), and this is the thing that really defines veganism as being different to vegetarianism (for example).

 

If that holds true then by definition you (as a vegan) believe pretty much everyone non-vegan to be 'a bad person'. Most vegetarians just see it as just a personal choice thing, and as a result they're much more fun around the braai or going clothes shopping.

[Odinson]

Call me slow, but..

 

This is probably the most important learning on this thread - i.e. vegan advocacy - because it seems fundamental to the definition of vegan. Vegans (Odinson, you'll let me know if I'm wrong..?) quite strongly believe it is wrong for anyone to eat meat (or wear leather shoes, wollen jerseys, down jackets), and this is the thing that really defines veganism as being different to vegetarianism (for example).

 

If that holds true then by definition you (as a vegan) believe pretty much everyone non-vegan to be 'a bad person'. Most vegetarians just see it as just a personal choice thing, and as a result they're much more fun around the braai or going clothes shopping.

 

Tours, you're right about your first distinction between vegans and vegetarians.

 

Where I'll disagree with you is the claims as to vegans believing non-vegans are 'bad people'.  Not being vegan doesn't make you a bad person in the same way that being a vegan doesn't make you a good person. 

 

Where I think many vegans take issue is when people are made aware of the suffering of the animals and the planet and still shrug it off or deny it. Still, that doesn't make you a 'bad person', but we, collectively and individually, have to take action where and when we can in the face of injustice. Adopting a vegan lifestyle is one of those ways to take action.

[Eldron]

Call me slow, but..

 

This is probably the most important learning on this thread - i.e. vegan advocacy - because it seems fundamental to the definition of vegan. Vegans (Odinson, you'll let me know if I'm wrong..?) quite strongly believe it is wrong for anyone to eat meat (or wear leather shoes, wollen jerseys, down jackets), and this is the thing that really defines veganism as being different to vegetarianism (for example).

 

If that holds true then by definition you (as a vegan) believe pretty much everyone non-vegan to be 'a bad person'. Most vegetarians just see it as just a personal choice thing, and as a result they're much more fun around the braai or going clothes shopping.

 

In my opinion you're partially right.

 

Vegans are as you say "animal products averse" but the bad person judgement/less fun at a braai is purely your judgement of vegans.

 

I know tons of vegans that are not too bothered by what other people do - I know very few aggro vegans that would proactively judge you and tell you how to live your life.

 

Either I am mixing with a non respresentable group of vegans or the "angry vegan" is a social media construct. Me - I think it's the latter.

 

Edit: What I wrote smacks of the binary thinking that I hate so much. There is probably a full spectrum of vegans from manic child starving weirdo vegan all the way through to silent benign vegans that just don't like torturing/killing animals. In my experience the mean is towards benign not manic...

Edited August 22, 2019 by Eldron