E Bike cheats

[popcorn_skollie]

Cheating are cheating !!!

 

Exactly. Everyone is missing the real issue here. And that's because e-bikes are obnoxious. Why do they all have to look like a boomslang that just ate a dassie? And where did Femke get one that looks like a normal bike? If they all looked like regular bikes. Nobody would know. Ergo. Nobody would be so salty about them. I need my cheating to be private. As soon as they look like normal bikes I'm getting one.

[Thor Buttox]

I think the point everyone is missing is how those of us who detest cheating are also so empathetic to the physical frailties of those who need eBikes to have fun, and who are forced to spend large amounts of money to overcome the physical and mental disabilities. I wonder how long before eBikes will be the next Discovery options category after obstetrics, physiother and homoeopathy.

 

I think too many of us focus on the aggressive defense of right and wrong and don't focus on the really, really important topic of rich boys' pain.

 

So please, guys, spread a little love. It's not the size, shape or looks that count. It's not how fast they go. It's that they are trying, whether on eBikes or not.

 

I'm going to leave this year as evidence of why compassion is necessary:

 

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/marriage/wife-wants-to-divorce-husband-because-he-doesnt-argue/news-story/a7ffd5ae8434eb3ba0bfb3392af14b83

[Cois]

To be honest, if I get a e-bike today it will be one of the greatest things ever for me.

 

I am limited by what my heart can do and I can’t push to hard or I will die (not my words but the words of the doctor and the medicine I am on)

 

I would like to ride many places, but I just can’t.

 

Will I use the bike to race? Hell no! I don’t even do races with my normal bike because I hate races and their seeding systems.

 

The last race I took part in (we are talking 3 or 4 years ago when I was a little bit fit) I started in the last bunch. I ended up catching some of the C Bunch people. And when things started with a little incline in the road, the whole field had to stop, get off and walk because they did not know how to use gears, and were just not fit enough for the smallest hill in the road and a severe lack of any MTB skills.

 

Maybe one day I will try a race again on the DS bike just for fun and i. The last batch of the race again.

[i24]

 

From the Cycle Challenge website:

1. The definition which distinguishes E-bikes permitted to enter the 94.7km race are as follows:
   1. when the motor produces maximum continuous rated power of not more than 250 watts
   2. the pedal-assist, i.e. the motorised assistance that only engages when the rider is pedalling, cuts out once 25 km/h is reached (ie no permanently powered bicycles), AND

 

I would suggest setting a maximum weight for the E-bike's batteries (including all spares and swops used in the race). After 97km of e-bike racing the batteries will be flat. The rider with the most battery capacity on board at the start has the biggest advantage. It would be quite easy for the officials to weigh batteries either before or after the race. (Unlike testing the electronics governing max speed and max power).

 

Modern e-bikes are all likely to have similar chemistry and if "exotics" appear then rules for battery types could be introduced too.

[BaGearA]

I would suggest setting a maximum weight for the E-bike's batteries (including all spares and swops used in the race). After 97km of e-bike racing the batteries will be flat. The rider with the most battery capacity on board at the start has the biggest advantage. It would be quite easy for the officials to weigh batteries either before or after the race. (Unlike testing the electronics governing max speed and max power).

 

Modern e-bikes are all likely to have similar chemistry and if "exotics" appear then rules for battery types could be introduced too.

What about motor outputs and driver gear size

 

Standardized battery sizes is A tiny part of this equation

[Frosty]

The next generation e-bike is already here... https://www.erockit.de/en/limited-edition-100/

 

0% emission, 100% emotion

 

Nice price too.

 

[SwissVan]

The next generation e-bike is already here... https://www.erockit.de/en/limited-edition-100/

 

0% emission, 100% emotion

 

Nice price too.

 

 

 

Yeah zero emotion

 

At the recent MTB World cup in Lenzerheide, the lead bike was an electric enduro bike (KTM i think)…. it just did not seem right watching this thing go around and the only noise was disc brake squeal and chain rattle

[Breezer]

I think the whole getting older, unfit and fat people into the sport with ebikes is BS. My dad was 63, weight 130kg and was as unfit as you can get. One day he said, i want to do the argus and bought a bike and started TRAINING.First week he did daily 5km rides and slowly progressed. He lost 18kg and did his Argus having a ball. And he did it on a normal bike.

E bike is a quick fix for the lazy.

Burn away.

[Cois]

I think the whole getting older, unfit and fat people into the sport with ebikes is BS. My dad was 63, weight 130kg and was as unfit as you can get. One day he said, i want to do the argus and bought a bike and started TRAINING.First week he did daily 5km rides and slowly progressed. He lost 18kg and did his Argus having a ball. And he did it on a normal bike.

E bike is a quick fix for the lazy.

Burn away.

 

https://www.facebook.com/514958908595147/posts/2341198822637804?s=100023870225378&v=e&sfns=mo

 

Spotted this the morning...

[SwissVan]

To be honest, if I get a e-bike today it will be one of the greatest things ever for me.

 

I am limited by what my heart can do and I can’t push to hard or I will die (not my words but the words of the doctor and the medicine I am on)

 

I would like to ride many places, but I just can’t.

 

Will I use the bike to race? Hell no! I don’t even do races with my normal bike because I hate races and their seeding systems.

 

The last race I took part in (we are talking 3 or 4 years ago when I was a little bit fit) I started in the last bunch. I ended up catching some of the C Bunch people. And when things started with a little incline in the road, the whole field had to stop, get off and walk because they did not know how to use gears, and were just not fit enough for the smallest hill in the road and a severe lack of any MTB skills.

 

Maybe one day I will try a race again on the DS bike just for fun and i. The last batch of the race again.

Now this would be a great example of why ebikes are great!

 

Have you seriously considered trying this, not for racing but just to get out and about?

[WaynejG]

What I find interesting is the CSA rule that E bikes cannot compete during a normal MTB race that is taking place. Yet here in PE it happens at all the events. They do however start last.

[Cois]

Now this would be a great example of why ebikes are great!

 

Have you seriously considered trying this, not for racing but just to get out and about?

I want to give it a go.  Since my outing last week, my blood pressure is in the region of 140/105 and that for me is very very hight and I have constant headaches from that.  I can't push my HR at the moment as I might die due to the meds that I am on (oh no joke, the side effects of the pills are a heart attack).  I want to wait one day and try to get on the bike again today, and see if my BP drops a bit, or else I need to go see the doctor for more meds to help me with my BP.  Oh and the BP is a side effect of one of the meds that I am on.

 

One huge hurdle.  The cost of the bikes.

[DieselnDust]

What about motor outputs and driver gear size

 

Standardized battery sizes is A tiny part of this equation

 

 

Watt.hours is Watt.hours. The capacity to do work.

weight is a decent gauge but the encasement for the batteries does vary somewhat in deisgn and therefore weight.

[Cois]

They should follow a set of rules like in formula E racing.

Level the playing field and the best cyclist will still win.  Make it about the cyclist and not the bike.

[Duane_Bosch]

I want to give it a go.  Since my outing last week, my blood pressure is in the region of 140/105 and that for me is very very hight and I have constant headaches from that.  I can't push my HR at the moment as I might die due to the meds that I am on (oh no joke, the side effects of the pills are a heart attack).  I want to wait one day and try to get on the bike again today, and see if my BP drops a bit, or else I need to go see the doctor for more meds to help me with my BP.  Oh and the BP is a side effect of one of the meds that I am on.

 

One huge hurdle.  The cost of the bikes.

Slight hijack.

 

Sorry if this is a personal q. What meds are you on?

 

do you have a BP issue and a cholesterol issue? I'm asking coz I have astronomically high cholesterol and both my parents had heart attacks. I'm on meds and trying my best to get fitter.

 

My doc said that getting fitter will reduce my chances of a heart attack. I bought a HRM and I'm doing 3-4 spinning classes a week and going as hard as I can. In 6 months my resting HR has gone down from high 60's to high 50's

 

Do you have a heart rate monitor? Do you keep your HR within a certain range?

[Jewbacca]

Slight hijack.

 

Sorry if this is a personal q. What meds are you on?

 

do you have a BP issue and a cholesterol issue? I'm asking coz I have astronomically high cholesterol and both my parents had heart attacks. I'm on meds and trying my best to get fitter.

 

My doc said that getting fitter will reduce my chances of a heart attack. I bought a HRM and I'm doing 3-4 spinning classes a week and going as hard as I can. In 6 months my resting HR has gone down from high 60's to high 50's

 

Do you have a heart rate monitor? Do you keep your HR within a certain range?

Excuse me! We are flaming cheats here.... Go and take your talk of good health, aspirations and legitimate training to another thread.... No one needs to see that hard work, dedication, sacrifice and determination can over come illness and circumstance... Just buy an e-bike!

 

As an aside, well done. That is amazing progress and hard work.