These dam cyclists!!

[Capricorn]

I'm not going to answer anymore questions, as I don't know the facts.  I just stated that I know the guy and that his story and their story does not add up.

You seem quite happy to very strongly insinuate the article is misleading, and you keep mentioning "facts" and "what the guy said" as if they are not the same thing. No need to give his personal details, just a faithful recount of what he said happened, and more importantly, where he was when he needed medical attention. 

[Pure Savage]

What he said and what they said is to different stories.  I'm not going to say what he said as I don't have the facts, I was not there when the incident occurred.

 

Maybe he is lying, maybe the article is lying.  I don't know. 

 

That he did not say, but what he said is that the ambulance had to drive into or through the construction site.

 

So, he could have entered safely at the bottom gate, had a fall in the Forrest and the ambulance had to drive through the construction site.

 

Slightly different take on it.

[Pure Savage]

Never trust reporters. I know this well...

[Long Wheel Base]

Dam cyclists you say?

New thread. Giant bicycle spotted in dam .

[BigDL]

So, he could have entered safely at the bottom gate, had a fall in the Forrest and the ambulance had to drive through the construction site.

 

Slightly different take on it.

I don’t know too much about large scale construction. Would an ambulance accessing site stop work?

[Skubarra]

I'm not going to answer anymore questions, as I don't know the facts.  I just stated that I know the guy and that his story and their story does not add up.

 

And you thought the hub would just say "OK, great - thanks for the contribution, no further questions"

[Super Sywurm]

So, he could have entered safely at the bottom gate, had a fall in the Forrest and the ambulance had to drive through the construction site.

 

Slightly different take on it.

 

 

@Skubarra, his story in short is what @Pure Savage said, if I understood him correctly.  He was there after hours as well.

 

And you thought the hub would just say "OK, great - thanks for the contribution, no further questions"

[Ozzie NL]

 

This is why 

But that is in Oz where most mine dump trucks are driven by women.........need I say more???

[gemmerbal]

I ask myself: "Gemmertjie, would you admit you were trespassing on a construction site, caused damages to site works and so on, when there is a possibility of damages being claimed against you?"

 

Probably not, sadly.

 

Then again, I work in construction, I know better. I also have a brain, that works, most days, and only after my 3rd espresso...

[Pure Savage]

I ask myself: "Gemmertjie, would you admit you were trespassing on a construction site, caused damages to site works and so on, when there is a possibility of damages being claimed against you?"

 

Probably not, sadly.

 

Then again, I work in construction, I know better. I also have a brain, that works, most days, and only after my 3rd espresso...

In this case the trails are not part of the construction site, its just the route the ambulance took to get to him.  

[The Ouzo]

Nah I don't agree with you. The guys trespassing(cyclist, pedestrian, what ever) are just a bunch of arrogant spiteful idiots. As with pretty much all proper constructions sites the sign boards and barricades are clear. Besides, common sense should prevail but clearly these okes don't have any. I work in aviation and we too have strict policies and it's not just to irritate or stuff people around, it's for your own damn safety. Someone not familiar with how something in the specific industry works might not know what to expect a bulldozer or plane or tractor etc to do next and that is why they are meant to be kept away. We do ground runs on the aircraft in our run-up bay and when we are going to be running the engine we switch on red flashing lights by the entrance to the run-up bay. There is a big sign that says don't enter while the red lights are flashing because jet blast can kill you. Now guys like myself and other fellow technicians understand this and will also know where to drive/stand when approaching a live aircraft. A few years ago(probably like 15/20) a catering truck decided to drive into the bay while we were doing a ground run on a 747 and they drove right behind the aircraft. Their small truck was blown all the way up the side embankment and over the side. The driver and I think 3 other people died because the driver never obeyed the instructions. The rules are there for a reason, obey them! It's simple. 

never mind the jet blast, when I did my airside training I was shocked at the getting sucked into the engine part.

[gemmerbal]

"George Municipality is fuming over cyclists whizzing around the Garden Route dam wall construction site after one cyclist's accident caused an expensive work shutdown recently.

Municipal spokesperson Chantel Edwards-Klose said the construction area around the dam has been cordoned off, but cycling enthusiasts have ignored all of the barricades and warnings.

She said a cyclist was recently injured within the site and was found by other cyclists, also allegedly trespassing.."

 

 

 

I dont know the trails, but if it is reported that cyclists are whizzing around a construction site, causing delays and whatnot, I think I will stick to my point of view for now. Until facts come to light showing something else.

 

 

In this case the trails are not part of the construction site, its just the route the ambulance took to get to him.  

[rorydewet]

I don’t know too much about large scale construction. Would an ambulance accessing site stop work?

Site safety is regulated by Construction Regulations plus the OHAS act plus site specific issues and could also be subject to Mines Health and Safety Act. In short a myriad of regulations and laws.

Each site requirements will be different tailored to the site conditions and the type of work been undertaken and spelt out in Method Statements and Risk Assessments.

In addition the above might have provisions that for certain types of incidents work stops, or certain operations stop, or certain areas are off limits.

As I said its situational. It might well be that the Risk Assessments state that for any incident involving the need for an ambulance all work on site must stop, to mitigate against the risk and outcome that gave rise to the accident in the first instance.

So simple answer is yes an ambulance could halt all work on site.

[Gen]

Site safety is regulated by Construction Regulations plus the OHAS act plus site specific issues and could also be subject to Mines Health and Safety Act. In short a myriad of regulations and laws.

Each site requirements will be different tailored to the site conditions and the type of work been undertaken and spelt out in Method Statements and Risk Assessments.

In addition the above might have provisions that for certain types of incidents work stops, or certain operations stop, or certain areas are off limits.

As I said its situational. It might well be that the Risk Assessments state that for any incident involving the need for an ambulance all work on site must stop, to mitigate against the risk and outcome that gave rise to the accident in the first instance.

So simple answer is yes an ambulance could halt all work on site.

Even a cut to the finger where stitches are required causes serious administrative headaches for the appointed responsible person.

[austin06]

This article was published by the George Municipality 

 

George MunicipalityLike Page

July 4

DANGER ZONE - URGENT APPEAL TO STAY AWAY FROM DAM AREA

Please note the Garden Route Dam and extended surrounding area is currently a no-go zone for safety reasons due to construction and alien vegetation clearing.

This is an urgent appeal to all hikers, cyclists and other outdoor enthusiasts to stay clear of all plantation and forest terrain, tracks and roads south of the train tracks above the dam. The work site is much larger than just the area directly adjacent to the dam and is potentially extremely dangerous for people who are not meant to be there.

Affected terrain: All terrain above the dam that is south of the train tracks, as well as all terrain east of Meyer Street at the Garden Route Dam entrance including MTO property and area west of NMU campus.Primary affected roads: Heavy vehicle activity on the public roads directly adjacent to the site, including the Meyer Street entrance to the dam and Madiba Drive between Meyer Street and a plantation access road in Madiba Drive (about halfway between Meyer and Nelson Mandela University George Campus). All road users are requested to take extreme care, to not speed or overtake in blind areas.

Secondary affected roads: Heavy vehicles will be delivering materials to the site, which will have an impact on Knysna Road, Madiba Drive, Mission and Industrial Roads.

Project duration: May 2019 to second quarter of 2020.

In addition to heavy vehicles on winding plantation roads and major excavations at the dam wall and above the dam, clearing of alien vegetation right around the dam will mean the presence of dangerous equipment including woodchippers, chain saws and cutters – not to mention falling trees, snakes and other wildlife disturbed by the temporary commotion.

Please do not be tempted to ignore signage because it looks like a site is not active. There is a lot that will be happening in areas that may not be obvious and visible, and areas where work is underway may be unstable and should not be entered just because workers or equipment do not seem to be around or are not visible.

A special appeal is being made to cyclists to please find routes outside this area and to not take any chances. Heavy vehicles will be using almost all the plantation and forest roads that cyclists frequent. Cyclists speeding down mountain paths run the risk of encountering large vehicles on winding plantation roads and they may not be able to stop or get out of the way in time if they come upon a truck. The area is always considered a high-risk site 24 hours, seven days a week. Ongoing safety risk reviews will be carried out and areas will be opened to public access only if it is considered safe for general access.

While every effort will be made to put up signage at as many points of access as possible, the area is not fenced, and the municipality will rely on citizens to help spread the word and to warn and discourage people from accessing the area. Ongoing messaging on several municipal communication channels will also take place.

 

[The Ouzo]

Even a cut to the finger where stitches are required causes serious administrative headaches for the appointed responsible person.

I did a 4 month stint at the Head Office of a mining company.

This is head office, the only mines in site are photos on the walls, but any little incident was a big thing.

We had a water outage the one day, and somehow someone left a tap on, next day we get there and office kitchen it flooded. Oh my hat, the rigmarol that came from that.