Are cyclist just too superior to keep their masks/buffs on

[Mamil]

No Diesel - just no - It's the other way around - if you are in public obey the social contract and comply with the requirements of the society you live in - wear the mask. 

 

I look for noone - I went for a ride and there you and your ilk were with no mask on. And by the way while we're on it - yes - ride in single file on chappies like the sign says.

 

"My non compliance with the rules is because the government ignores scientific advice" 

 

Also - any time you want me to impress your wife I'll be happy to oblige.

 

 

Shjoe I thought you'd run out of steam by now. Even my wife is impressed at long you can moan on the Internet.

If you can't change the behaviour remove yourself from the space of these people you detest so much. Yet you seem to tend to go looking for them so you can pat yourself on the back, rewarding your moral high ground..
lions head was closed because of too many people. So now the crowd will move to the next spot and that will be closed. Its what happens when you don't open all the public spaces as per scientific advice
Have you tried drinking with a mask on?

 

There is no difference between being on lion's head after hours and being on lion's head without a mask. The attitude underlying both things is the same - this rule is stupid and doesn't apply to me.

 

Too many people, and especially after 6pm.
Using the excuse they could not get down in time because its so busy

 

 

I can see plenty of things being closed again due to non compliance.

 

With the trauma units being packed again on the weekend due to alcohol related incidents it wouldn't surprise me if that gets looked at again too.

 

Pretty sure all the IG fitfam Lions Head locals will still go up there (much like they still go to Wally's Cave despite all the signs saying it's closed) and keep flouting the rules while doing it.

 

As soon as 1 or 2 are escorted off in a van the whole Twittergram will explode with Outrage Outrage and Rabble Rabble.... 

 

It's the 5%er way!

 

That's the thing though, openly flouting rules and guidelines will ultimately lead to my privileges being removed. Then I will be angry. I can finally go up the mountain and it is amazing. 

 

The non mask wearers and group riders etc... I will come for you if they close shop because of you

 

It's more than 5% unfortunately Jewbacca - it's 80 percent of riders on the Atlantic sea board, chappies, muizenberg loop not wearing masks so -- you're outnumbered 5 to 1. 

[DieselnDust]

Is it closed because hikers and bikers aren't wearing masks ?

Too many people, and especially after 6pm.

Using the excuse they could not get down in time because its so busy

[PygaSchmyga]

the righteousness AND furious anger is strong tonight - clearly the cape pineapple beer is stronger than the jozi version.  you okes have serious rage issues

[Mamil]

Brilliant - thanks!! 

 

Gotta love the Savages.

 

Ok

[Mamil]

It's not a rage issue - you're the issue here - at least your refusal to acknowledge that you are as bound as everyone else is to wear a mask

 

the righteousness AND furious anger is strong tonight - clearly the cape pineapple beer is stronger than the jozi version.  you okes have serious rage issues

Edited June 6, 2020 by Mamil

[PygaSchmyga]

No Diesel - just no - It's the other way around - if you are in public obey the social contract and comply with the requirements of the society you live in - wear the mask. 

 

I look for noone - I went for a ride and there you and your ilk were with no mask on. And by the way while we're on it - yes - ride in single file on chappies like the sign says.

 

"My non compliance with the rules is because the government ignores scientific advice" 

 

Also - any time you want me to impress your wife I'll be happy to oblige.

 

 

 

There is no difference between being on lion's head after hours and being on lion's head without a mask. The attitude underlying both things is the same - this rule is stupid and doesn't apply to me.

 

 

 

 

It's more than 5% unfortunately Jewbacca - it's 80 percent of riders on the Atlantic sea board, chappies, muizenberg loop not wearing masks so -- you're outnumbered 5 to 1. 

i can actually hear your raised voice in these messages.  join the cops and get a a gun if you are so taken with RULES enforcement, but repetitive moaning in this echo chamber of yours is only getting your blood pressure up and up

[PygaSchmyga]

It's not a rage issue - you're the issue here - at least your refusal to acknowledge that you are as bound as everyone else is to wear a mask

i've advocated for responsible, ALONE riding without a mask while ensuring social distance.  go back and check, although i suspect you have, but just choose to hit a 1-tone drum because your moral highground can't entertain nuanced discussions.  on this point i have been quite repetitive too, bordering on your levels of obsession

[DieselnDust]

No Diesel - just no - It's the other way around - if you are in public obey the social contract and comply with the requirements of the society you live in - wear the mask. 

 

I look for noone - I went for a ride and there you and your ilk were with no mask on. And by the way while we're on it - yes - ride in single file on chappies like the sign says.

 

"My non compliance with the rules is because the government ignores scientific advice" 

 

Also - any time you want me to impress your wife I'll be happy to oblige.

 

 

 

 

There is no difference between being on lion's head after hours and being on lion's head without a mask. The attitude underlying both things is the same - this rule is stupid and doesn't apply to me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's more than 5% unfortunately Jewbacca - it's 80 percent of riders on the Atlantic sea board, chappies, muizenberg loop not wearing masks so -- you're outnumbered 5 to 1.

 

OK there their

[Wannabe]

Expecting the local Mtb trails to be chocfull this morning, I decided to rather do the Stellies coffee run on my hybrid. On the way I bumped into a few friends (not pre-arranged)  and together we rode to our favorite coffee joint, all of us wearing our buffs over our mouths and noses, while keeping a distance between us, as much as possible.

 

On the way back we were joined by another small group that joined the road from a side road. At first it was civilised, but as you know, more than two cyclist riding together is a "race" and things soon hotted up. With breathing becoming too difficult at close to my limit on a 36/11 ratio (HR up to 183) I backed off and let them go on their merry way, rather than pulling my buff down to breath better. 

 

I observed all (or most) of the other riders we passed in either direction was wearing some kind of mask / buff. We did pass a few groups of dog walkers, walkers and even running groups (running shoulder to shoulder in the yellow line) and the majority of them had no cover over their mouths of any kind, or it was perched on the chin/hanging around the neck.

 

So in my limited view, it seems that cyclist in the Northern 'Burbs are quite well behaved in this regard.

Edited June 6, 2020 by Wannabe

[Vetplant]

i've advocated for responsible, ALONE riding without a mask while ensuring social distance. go back and check, although i suspect you have, but just choose to hit a 1-tone drum because your moral highground can't entertain nuanced discussions. on this point i have been quite repetitive too, bordering on your levels of obsession

Pyga, what is your plan when a law enforcement officer stops you and asks you to come with him?

 

It is a serious question, given that we have some officers that are happy to make an example of someone, you might be that guy the choose to take in.

 

Then your whole plan to avoid people falls flat on its face.

Edited June 6, 2020 by Swift&Aero

[Mamil]

Become a cop and have to police you and your ilk who believe that your nuanced and opinion distinguishes you from every other muppet and entitles you to behave in accordance with your beliefs which in this case means advocating selective compliance with a public health regulation in the context of a global pandemic.

 

I feel for the coppers who have to deal with this garbage day in and day out without shooting anybody.

 

In a real way you are a child of the postmodern - subjectivity reigns supreme - the world is as I think it not as some external authority says but as my capacity to argue makes it. Solipsism

 

 

 

 

 

i can actually hear your raised voice in these messages.  join the cops and get a a gun if you are so taken with RULES enforcement, but repetitive moaning in this echo chamber of yours is only getting your blood pressure up and up

[Mamil]

Which is it Diesel? 

 

 

OK there their

[PygaSchmyga]

Pygmy, what is your plan when a law enforcement officer stops you and asks you to come with him?

 

It is a serious question, given that we have some officers that are happy to make an example of someone, you might be that guy the choose to take in.

 

Then your whole plan to avoid people falls flat on its face.

if you took the time to check the law, you would see that a law officer has no ability to do anything on this.  But this has not been any of your point anyway, so I'm not falling into that man trap. 

 

The mask wearing regulations carry no sanction, so they make no sense, and have been struck down with the rest of the L3/L4 regs anyway.  Even so, as I said, I support responsible, alone riding with no mask

 

[edit] PYGMY - LOL! is that more of the passive aggressive disdain that these posts have been littered with?

Edited June 6, 2020 by PygaSchmyga

[DieselnDust]

Ah **** off the lot of you ... having been called all manner of things for politely saing please wear a mask followed by the usual litany of nonsense

 

It's nothing to do with what I say or my opinion it is simply what's required of you - wear a mask that's all.

 

Which argument or reasoned point of view is going to make it sink in? The endless rounds of pointing it out nicely so that you geniuses can apply your gargantuan intellects to the critical analysis of the research which overwhelmingly indicates that there is a risk mitigation effect that comes from following a simple instruction 

 

Wear a mask when outside

 

"Yes but .." "Oh who are you to tell me .." or ... wadda wadda wadda entitled nonsense.

 

Put it on - nothing to do with me or whether you think I'm an asshole or whether you actually are an asshole - 

 

Irrellevant

 

 

 

you were and are far from polite....

[Jewbacca]

I'm not angry, before someone paints me with that stick.

 

I do just want to point out that 'if you meet your friends by chance' and then ride with them that is an 'organised' group. You might not have arranged it, but I highly doubt you had planned the same ride route at the same speed, so by riding with said friends, it's an organised group.

 

I'm all for making the most of life, I've even been surfing once or twice this week, thrown some toes over the front of the longboard and chatted to one or two of my mates out in the water.

 

BUT I just think we should all be aware that our actions do have consequences. Whether you obey the rules, obey some of the rules or flout most of them, there comes a time when the powers that be will have enough.

 

We then will have to live with the fact that our decisions to ride in groups, not wear masks etc are responsible for whatever comes as a result.

 

I also do think that once this hits the 5%ers and starts killing people we know, there will be a very different tune being sung.

 

My advice would be to rather keep your words close to your chest so you don't have to eat them if someone in your family passes away from the pandemic.

 

At the moment everyone is obsessed with mask wearing, financial resurrection and the injustice of others and their decisions.. Once the virus starts ravaging those around you I think a whole lot will change.

 

Until then, we are all fighting some sort of battle, I reckon we should lay off the hostility towards one another. It's just not worth it.

[Mamil]

I had decided to ride on the road thinking that MTB on the trails might be risky given that I'm not the most skilled MTBer and I don't want to end up in hospital at the current time but I'm starting to think that a gentle MTB might be a better bet given my experience of coming up behind person anfter person after person heaving away without a mask on today.

 

 

Expecting the local Mtb trails to be chocfull this morning, I decided to rather do the Stellies coffee run on my hybrid. On the way I bumped into a few friends (not pre-arranged)  and together we rode to our favorite coffee joint, all of us wearing our buffs over our mouths and noses, while keeping a distance between us, as much as possible.

 

On the way back we were joined by another small group that joined the road from a side road. At first it was civilised, but as you know, more than two cyclist riding together is a "race" and things soon hotted up. With breathing becoming too difficult at close to my limit on a 36/11 ratio (HR up to 183) I backed off and let them go on their merry way, rather than pulling my buff down to breath better. 

 

I observed all (or most) of the other riders we passed in either direction was wearing some kind of mask / buff. We did pass a few groups of dog walkers, walkers and even running groups (running shoulder to shoulder in the yellow line) and the majority of them had no cover over their mouths of any kind, or it was perched on the chin/hanging around the neck.

 

So in my limited view, it seems that cyclist in the Northern 'Burbs are quite well behaved in this regard.