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14 hours ago, ChrisF said:

Productivity may impacted this week ... 😋

 

Laptop screen on Epic YT

 

Cell on the tracker ... lead men ... "my" elite ladies team ... then my friends much further back.

 

Watching the terrain as the men negotiate it .... nice to have some idea of the trails and landscape when my friends come along later ....

 

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We are lucky to have this wealth of information at our disposal ...

Where can we track the riders? I don't have utube at work?

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Does anyone know if there are any hardtails this year? 
 

Would love to see a “different bikes of the Epic” feature - hardtails, older bikes like that guy who finally got a new Scott last year’s old bike, cheap bikes etc. 

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Speaking of different bikes, and straying far off topic, whatever happened to our Hair Creature's plans to ride the Munga on a BMX?

Posted
2 hours ago, Pandatron said:

I’ve spent time working alongside anti-human trafficking task forces and have been exposed to some of the darkest realities people can inflict on one another. It takes a lot to genuinely shock me.

That said, what I observed on the livestream sits firmly outside even those parameters....

Outside of those parameters as well... The ladies only having to do half a stage...

Posted
2 minutes ago, Ispeed_V said:

WTF. 

DSTV cross over to adds in the last KM so we don't get to see the finish.

 

Tell me about it! How dumb!

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1 hour ago, Ispeed_V said:

WTF. 

DSTV cross over to adds in the last KM so we don't get to see the finish.

 

Par for the course! Probably Cecil Nurse or Marriot?

Unfortunately the work's firewall blocks YouTube.

Posted
21 hours ago, DieselnDust said:

The ladies tdf is as long as it is because that’s all the sponsors would pay for. The ladies themselves want a longer tdf but the short one is better than none at all.

Do they want the same distance though? The 1200/3300km TDf difference is way bigger than the 500/700(or whatever it is here ). The answer to this question is of course obviously not. 

 

21 hours ago, DieselnDust said:

it all boils down to money. Maybe recovery is a real concern but then why not make the ladies race 5 days instead of 8?

That would be massively controversial, but actuallly a bloody good idea. they just start on stage3 and go all out.

It might be that this shortened stage idea needs more time to take hold. Currently, it's a disaster with only 2 teams in contention, and the 3rd 25min+ off. Imagine if Kate didn't pair up with Greta a few days before the race (you don't have to imagine actually, just remember what it was like with Annika and <insert partner> cruising the course for 8 days without too much trouble)

 

meanwhile in the men's we have 7 teams within 5 minutes still.

21 hours ago, DieselnDust said:

because their teams also want exposure so they want a race if equal tv time. They haven’t got that in the past 24hrs so what has changed? The ladies race will lose its lustre because of the overall lack of money in the woman’s teams . It has nothing to do with the event format. This is a general cycling comment not specific to the ACE

chicken and egg, seems to be loads of teams for women's xco

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22 minutes ago, Shebeen said:

Do they want the same distance though? The 1200/3300km TDf difference is way bigger than the 500/700(or whatever it is here ). The answer to this question is of course obviously not. 

No they don't want the same distance. They realise that ladies road cycling is not where the mens sport is. Most of the women are holding down two jobs including cycling whereas the men are full time employees. The minimum wage for men is EURO50,000 per year in Pro Tour @John Wakefield correct me if this figure is incorrect. So they have a practical problem in the ladies either needing to take leave from day jobs or work part-time. Not ideal to grow a sport but this is where the mens sport was in the 1950's. So there won't be event parity. Marion Rousse has done a good job in getting the womens TDF to the level its at but the ladies sport as a whole needs to be uplifted before the event will get to the 14 days  some of the ladies have thrown on the table. So what the ladies want has to be balanced by what can be afforded. It could piggy back off the mens event and the ladies can ride the same route but start closer to the finish for what is effectivley shorter stages  similar to what Cape Epic has done but there are different sponsors involved. Again it's the economics that drives the planning.

22 minutes ago, Shebeen said:

 

That would be massively controversial, but actuallly a bloody good idea. they just start on stage3 and go all out.

It might be that this shortened stage idea needs more time to take hold. Currently, it's a disaster with only 2 teams in contention, and the 3rd 25min+ off. Imagine if Kate didn't pair up with Greta a few days before the race (you don't have to imagine actually, just remember what it was like with Annika and <insert partner> cruising the course for 8 days without too much trouble)

 

meanwhile in the men's we have 7 teams within 5 minutes still.

chicken and egg, seems to be loads of teams for women's xco

 The ladies XCO is roughly half the size of the mens and the % of actual teams is much smaller. Also there isn't equal pay is one gauged e.g. the 10th ranked rider and the 25th ranked. In both cases the male woul dbe earning more. Not sure of the quantum, but it's substantially more. That right there is a big reason why the Cape Epic does not attract many ladies XCO teams.

RSS is a very expensive place to get to , especially when you have to factor in travel to South Korea in May.

The best way to get more ladies XCO teams is to offer UCI XCO points to finishers. currently the points go to the XCM series and its not enough to incentivize teams to make the journey

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