I have an idea for a new thread...

[Kranswurm]

That's the thing. It's not unimportant. 

 

Everyone is bemoaning the state of the world, climate change, etc., but so few have the balls to put their money where there mouth is and start contributing to change. 

You need to take a tablet and calm down.....there are many more important things than the rate of defection from veganism.

[Patchelicious]

You can do better than that. Try again.

I don’t need to, I’m honestly not here to trigger you.

 

You have correctly called me out when I have previously over reacted. I’m just doing the same.

 

I drew a parallel in jest.

[Shebeen]

Absolute fuckin bull****. 

 

How easy for people it is to believe anything that they read on FB. Don't spread fake news, dude. It's not cool. 

 

And yes, I am triggered. Veganism is part of my core values system. I won't take someone talking **** lying down. To my knowledge there have not been any comprehensive studies on vegan/vegetarian* recidivism.  

 

*Vegetarianism is not an ethical stance. Thus, recidivism, if you can call it that, would possibly be higher than those who are vegan. IMO. 

 

 

 

Veganism/vegetarianism/reduced meat intake is a very hard point to debate against.

 

The problem is that vegans are so militant about it, no one actually reads the facts.

So chill out, you're right. people just won'y take it that way. We've all seen this movie before.

 

but more importantly...get this vegan defense crap off this THREAD

[sias]

Still got training wheels on I think (and its in the telegraph so it must be true!)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/29/vegan-campaigner-says-farmers-complain-death-threats-abuse-playing/

What a bunch of fcuking whackjobs!

Probably happens when you haven't had a good braai in years...

Edited October 2, 2018 by sias

[Tuxstir]

 

Veganism/vegetarianism/reduced meat intake is a very hard point to debate against.

 

The problem is that vegans are so militant about it, no one actually reads the facts.

So chill out, you're right. people just won'y take it that way. We've all seen this movie before.

 

but more importantly...get this vegan defense crap off this THREAD

Been so Militant and sensitive over a topic. usually triggers my lets see how far I can trigger you button..if you going to be a leftist SJW type that wants to silence peoples opinion..I want to shout louder..and I was seriously tempted.

 

but this is the awesome thread so lets keep it awesome

[Odinson]

 

*breathes out deeply*

 

I admit - I posted in anger. Was still fuming from work-related ***. 

 

I'll let this be my last post in this thread, on this topic. 

 

Veganism is a rising tide and one of the largest social justice movements in recent years and will continue as such for the foreseaable future. It threatens the income of those who make their money off of animal cruelty - such persons and organisations will obviously try to delegitimatize veganism and spin negative narratives such as vegans being militant. Groups such as the ALF represent a fraction of the vegan community. 

 

At the end of the day, veganism is a call to action - to take action against animal and human cruelty, environmental destruction and speciecism. 

[Hairy]

79% of all quoted stats are made up on the spot.

It is actually 87% made up on the spot, FACT'ish

[m-squared]

It is actually 87% made up on the spot, FACT'ish

There 3 types of people in this world.

Those that can count and those that can't.

[Tuxstir]

 

*breathes out deeply*

 

I admit - I posted in anger. Was still fuming from work-related ***. 

 

I'll let this be my last post in this thread, on this topic. 

 

Veganism is a rising tide and one of the largest social justice movements in recent years and will continue as such for the foreseaable future. It threatens the income of those who make their money off of animal cruelty - such persons and organisations will obviously try to delegitimatize veganism and spin negative narratives such as vegans being militant. Groups such as the ALF represent a fraction of the vegan community. 

 

At the end of the day, veganism is a call to action - to take action against animal and human cruelty, environmental destruction and speciecism. 

 

 

Oh one last thing

 

STOP with the attempt at emotional blackmail..

it doesn't work.. it doesn't endure you to people you are trying to reach, and its really something best left in the pre-primary play ground.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

There 3 types of people in this world.

Those that can count and those that can't.

There are 2 types of people in the world. 

 

Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

[Odinson]

Considering that this is the awesome thread...

 

California Passes First U.S. Ban on Animal-Tested Cosmetics

 

 

California Governor Jerry Brown signed a first-of-its-kind law banning the sale of animal tested cosmetics Friday, the Huffington Post reported.

 

"We are grateful to Governor Brown for signing this bill," California state director for the Humane Society of the United States Crystal Moreland said in a press release. "I am proud that California is the first state in the nation to take a stand against cruel cosmetic animal testing."

 

The California Cruelty-Free Cosmetics Act, which was written by Democratic state Senator Cathleen Galgiani, passed the state legislature earlier in September, The Hill reported. It stipulates that manufacturers cannot "import for profit, sell or offer for sale" any cosmetics tested on animals once the law goes into effect Jan. 1, 2020.

 

Violations will be punished with a fine of $5,000, followed by a fine of $1,000 per day every day the violation continues, the Huffington Post reported.

 

It is the first law of its kind in the U.S., though similar laws have been passed in the EU, India, Israel and Norway. A national law introduced to Congress last year has not yet been passed, though animal advocates hope California's law might change that.

 

"We're hopeful this law will encourage the federal government to pass the Humane Cosmetics Act," program manager for animal research issues at the Humane Society of the United States Vicki Katrinak told the Huffington Post.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

 

Considering that this is the awesome thread...

 

California Passes First U.S. Ban on Animal-Tested Cosmetics

 

I like dis. 

[Jehosefat]

I like dis. 

 

Yeah, they should totally be testing that stuff on poor orphans instead

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Yeah, they should totally be testing that stuff on poor orphans instead

Or themselves... and death row inmates. 

Edited October 2, 2018 by Cptmayhem

[m-squared]

Or themselves... and death row inmates.

I vote for paedophiles

[IMan777]

 

Old One but still funny...