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Posted
2 hours ago, IceCreamMan said:

That time. 

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It's been fascinating.  Hmmm...  Who to choose?  A 34 time convicted felon (only 91 more felony criminal charges to go) who is a Russian asset, or a long-time prosecutor who has taken down drug cartels and corrupt businessmen and politicians and who has a scrupulously clean record.

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1 minute ago, justinafrika said:

It's been fascinating.  Hmmm...  Who to choose?  A 34 time convicted felon (only 91 more felony criminal charges to go) who is a Russian asset, or a long-time prosecutor who has taken down drug cartels and corrupt businessmen and politicians and who has a scrupulously clean record.

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It’s a pity Harris did not do more as VP, she should be a shoe in if you think about it but yeah, funny lot the Americans. 
 

bookies here have trump as overwhelming favourite as prez and Harris as overwhelming favourite for the popular vote. 

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, IceCreamMan said:

............. funny lot the Americans..............

That about sums it up.

Edit: But I suppose we can say that about the Brits and the French too, if you look at their recent politics.

 

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, IceCreamMan said:

bookies here have trump as overwhelming favourite as prez and Harris as overwhelming favourite for the popular vote. 

I'll stick my neck out and state it won't be as close as that, or as close as many analysts are predicting.  2 or 3 clear points between them.  Without writing many pages of reasoning:

1. Many former Republican governors and reps have gone public about voting for Harris.  Schwarzenegger, Liz Cheney, Kinzinger, Geoff Duncan, Flake, Gonzalez, Riggleman, Upton, Rath, Humphrey, Grisham, Cowles, Giles, Negroponte, William Webster, Troye.  Oh, and even former vice president Dick Cheney.

2. And that's not even counting the 40 out of 44 of Trump's top cabinet appointees and advisors and generals all stating that he's unsuited and that they are voting for Harris.

3. Early voting shows that women have turned up in larger numbers than ever before, outnumbering men.  Loads and loads of daughters and wives have pledged to "cancel" their Republican fathers' and husbands' votes by voting blue all down the ballot.

4. There's something else also going on.  I wish I'd screenshotted all those long-time regular guy Republican old boys and grandfathers openly stating that they're voting Dem for the first time in their lives for the sake of their daughters' and grandchildren's healthcare in the post-Roe vs Wade era. The consequences have been devastating.  The details and numbers are nuts, with kids as young as 10 being denied intervention with their rape pregnancies.

 

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11 minutes ago, justinafrika said:

I'll stick my neck out and state it won't be as close as that, or as close as many analysts are predicting.  2 or 3 clear points between them.  Without writing many pages of reasoning:

1. Many former Republican governors and reps have gone public about voting for Harris.  Schwarzenegger, Liz Cheney, Kinzinger, Geoff Duncan, Flake, Gonzalez, Riggleman, Upton, Rath, Humphrey, Grisham, Cowles, Giles, Negroponte, William Webster, Troye.  Oh, and even former vice president Dick Cheney.

2. And that's not even counting the 40 out of 44 of Trump's top cabinet appointees and advisors and generals all stating that he's unsuited and that they are voting for Harris.

3. Early voting shows that women have turned up in larger numbers than ever before, outnumbering men.  Loads and loads of daughters and wives have pledged to "cancel" their Republican fathers' and husbands' votes by voting blue all down the ballot.

4. There's something else also going on.  I wish I'd screenshotted all those long-time regular guy Republican old boys and grandfathers openly stating that they're voting Dem for the first time in their lives for the sake of their daughters' and grandchildren's healthcare in the post-Roe vs Wade era. The consequences have been devastating.  The details and numbers are nuts, with kids as young as 10 being denied intervention with their rape pregnancies.

 

Well the bookies been wrong before with Clinton trump and Brexit as examples. 
 

the popular vote will most certainly go Harris’s way. And probably by that percentage. President though is going to be more tricky. Bookie yesterday had Harris as favourite. Today trump is overwhelmingly favourite. 
 

we wait…..and we see. 

Posted
1 hour ago, The Ouzo said:

guys please tread carefully with the politcal talk, we dont want one of the better non cycling threads to be removed too

Hear you, but this is more world affairs than politics per se. It’s an interesting election and conceivably will affect bicycle prices in ZA indirectly. 

Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, The Ouzo said:

guys please tread carefully with the politcal talk, we dont want one of the better non cycling threads to be removed too

Ja nee true, this place seriously needs an unrestricted thread where moderators are 🚫 

Edit: This morning I toyed with the idea of starting a topic regarding the US election, but suspected it would be a waste of time due to moderation. Let’s hope they who yield the “thread locked” button don’t opt for the lazy option of locking the whole thread.

 

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