I have an idea for a new thread...

[Uni]

saw this on twitter this morning

[Uni]

I do not condone what has happened in this video but damn it's easy to criticize what happens during war situations from the outside.

Anyone who has been in a war situation will know what I mean

this video really does not go down well with me. i have never had to endure any kind of war but the fact that so many people (in this case innocent people) can be mowed down purely due to what a few people think they see is rather scary. It's also somewhat disturbing that this video is available in the public domain - it's good for information but for the family /friends of the victims I imagine it would be difficult - I would want to see my loved one's final moments but I don't know if i would be able to handle it.

[Witkop]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYUjyH8Y0No&feature=player_detailpage

[Azi]

I do not condone what has happened in this video but damn it's easy to criticize what happens during war situations from the outside.

Anyone who has been in a war situation will know what I mean

 

There was no danger to anyone so they could have taken time to scout what was really happening, and get their armoured ground vehicles there to investigate before opening fire. And then, knowing that an unarmed man is injured and getting assistance, they impatiently shoot at and kill good people (and shoot their children) who come to the aid of the injured. Trigger happy, definately. Cameras mistaken for machine guns and even an RPG? The Humvee drives right over the body of an innocent man and the guy in the helicopter cheers. WTF? There are just too many shitty assumptions made that leads to the loss of 12 - 15 breadwinners, parents, husbands, children - people who are innocent!

 

Then there is the coverup from the military leaders who claimed that the journalists were killed during active combat in a firefight when they clearly knew the facts. Almost every innocent person killed can be labelled a combatant making stupid soldiers heros, perpetuating the cycle, allowing soldiers to act with impunity.

 

We should criticize people, especially leaders, for their cover ups and lies. Better still, hold them accountable.

Edited November 27, 2013 by Azi

[gummibear]

And this.

 

 

http://www.stereophile.com/images/912martin.promo_.jpg

 

 

http://www.martinlogan.com/images/stagex/stagex-lifestyle.jpg

 

 

http://www.martinlogan.com/images/big-images/vista.jpg

 

Martin Logan's are awesome.

 

I was looking at reviews for bookshelf speakers and ended up with pics of the B&W's

[Helpmytrap]

This is more my scene when it comes to speaker porn.

 

 

http://bilder.hifi-forum.de/max/140072/sonus-faber-cremona-auditor-m_57754.jpg

 

 

 

Out of interest, what is your view on cabling? Like in the picture above, you can see that it is top top quality and obviously very expensive. But at what point does the salesman's talk become smoke and mirrors?

It obviously goes hand in hand with your equipment (referring to your source, amplifiers and speakers), so let's assume you have THE best. Can one physically hear the difference between different (quality) cabling or does one simply think that they can hear "more" because they dropped a ludicrous amount of money and the brain is "filling in some gaps" to try and justify itself?

 

One obviously draws a line where say R150/m (as an example) for cable is the point at which one can no longer justify the quality vs price.

 

edit: this was a case of verbal diarrhoea, sorry.

Edited November 27, 2013 by Helpmytrap

[davetapson]

Just WOW! I can only imagine, having kids of my own, how he must feel.

 

Bottom line is that until you've had kids you know nothing.

[Stretch]

right.....in amongst the speaker porn and the discussion on wars you need to watch wrecking ball....chatroulette style

 

[Wyatt Earp]

Out of interest, what is your view on cabling? Like in the picture above, you can see that it is top top quality and obviously very expensive. But at what point does the salesman's talk become smoke and mirrors?

It obviously goes hand in hand with your equipment (referring to your source, amplifiers and speakers), so let's assume you have THE best. Can one physically hear the difference between different (quality) cabling or does one simply think that they can hear "more" because they dropped a ludicrous amount of money and the brain is "filling in some gaps" to try and justify itself?

 

One obviously draws a line where say R150/m (as an example) for cable is the point at which one can no longer justify the quality vs price.

 

It's a can of worms and a topic open to much debate, nobody has ever reached a consensus either and it's one of those topic where you are almost too afraid to voice your opinion as it normally ends up the mother of all fights.

 

Saying that I look at things from a practical standpoint.

Meaning that the value of the system should be in line with the cable expenditure.

It's kinda pointless having a R 15 k system and having a R 15 k interconnect.

 

I am a firm believer in that cables have a big impact on the sound, some allow more openness ad others more pronounced trebles or deeper bass.

I quite simply like a very neutral system, something where the cable does the "least damage" to the signal.

 

All cables are evil, the better cable is the one that affects the signal the least.

Many types of materials, shielding and braiding has an effect on the overall outcome.

 

I personally prefer interconnects with silver conductors and when it comes to speaker cables, if you have a nice and powerful amplifier , then pretty much most well designed cables will do a super job.

 

I like cables that are active, either using batteries or perhaps a wall power supply socket.

By using something that makes the cable active, you can almost guarantee a far better shielding, shielding for me is the most important aspect of a good cable.

 

Induction can really dampen the overall sound of a system, a power cable generates a huge magnetic field, a well designed speaker cable or interconnect would generally be quite thick as much of the design has gone in to the shielding design of said cable.

 

Price ?

I don't think any system (stereo) worth R 30 k or over should run any speaker cable that sells for less that R 500 p/m.

[Wyatt Earp]

Martin Logan's are awesome.

 

I was looking at reviews for bookshelf speakers and ended up with pics of the B&W's

 

They are so open, but very room dependent.

I love the hybrid design as opposed to the Quads or the Kingsound speakers.

That bass driver really enhances the bass experience as electrostatic panels lack serious bass.

[forkie]

It's a can of worms and a topic open to much debate, nobody has ever reached a consensus either and it's one of those topic where you are almost too afraid to voice your opinion as it normally ends up the mother of all fights.

 

Saying that I look at things from a practical standpoint.

Meaning that the value of the system should be in line with the cable expenditure.

It's kinda pointless having a R 15 k system and having a R 15 k interconnect.

 

I am a firm believer in that cables have a big impact on the sound, some allow more openness ad others more pronounced trebles or deeper bass.

I quite simply like a very neutral system, something where the cable does the "least damage" to the signal.

 

All cables are evil, the better cable is the one that affects the signal the least.

Many types of materials, shielding and braiding has an effect on the overall outcome.

 

I personally prefer interconnects with silver conductors and when it comes to speaker cables, if you have a nice and powerful amplifier , then pretty much most well designed cables will do a super job.

 

I like cables that are active, either using batteries or perhaps a wall power supply socket.

By using something that makes the cable active, you can almost guarantee a far better shielding, shielding for me is the most important aspect of a good cable.

 

Induction can really dampen the overall sound of a system, a power cable generates a huge magnetic field, a well designed speaker cable or interconnect would generally be quite thick as much of the design has gone in to the shielding design of said cable.

 

Price ?

I don't think any system (stereo) worth R 30 k or over should run any speaker cable that sells for less that R 500 p/m.

so you saying I should stay away from this stuff?

 

http://shop.rabtron.co.za/catalog/images/ripcord05mmwb2.jpg

[Christopher Brunsdon]

right.....in amongst the speaker porn and the discussion on wars you need to watch wrecking ball....chatroulette style

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6DmHGYy_xk

 

I love the stuff Steve gets up to.

[Jaguar Shark]

Yamaha tw200 - first bike to reach both the North and South Poles...

 

http://www.hawthorneaudio.com/photos/albums/userpics/10003/P6170050.jpg

 

http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz49/kyosuke_03/1716319_183933184_3large.jpg

 

http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz49/kyosuke_03/1716319_183933334_144large.jpg

Edited November 27, 2013 by Jaguar Shark

[Jaguar Shark]

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/86/09/6c/86096c56b84de073c5088ea5b28d56c7.jpg

[Pieter1]

Yamaha tw200 - first bike to reach both the North and South Poles...

 

http://www.hawthorneaudio.com/photos/albums/userpics/10003/P6170050.jpg

 

http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz49/kyosuke_03/1716319_183933184_3large.jpg

 

http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz49/kyosuke_03/1716319_183933334_144large.jpg

I have always liked it with its dik rear wheel!

[Jaguar Shark]

http://behance.vo.llnwd.net/profiles21/644757/projects/6622505/c106218887b6cf9c6ef6863084d082ae.jpeg

 

http://behance.vo.llnwd.net/profiles21/644757/projects/6622505/dc3d206ee1ca1b7d51de2787f566af23.jpg

 

http://behance.vo.llnwd.net/profiles21/644757/projects/6622505/ad8814f2cbe65db926d4096a3d604f77.jpg