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So you don`t want to take any chances and then fit tyres with no sidewall protection. Fail?

They are still perfect after the rocky 247km ride. I had them at 3bar and the ride was quick, a little twitchey, but with lots of grip when I needed it.

 

Saw plenty of folks that had flats, mostly snake bites from sharp rocks.

 

Thus I conclude sidewall protection would have been a waste of money here.

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Question for those in the know ... any reason why I should not do the Sani2C on Crossmarks 2.1 29ers?

No reason not too, but this post is too late anyway. I did 2 x Epics on them and they were perfect, Ok not a racing snake but hell they are bullet proof.

 

Edit: And they teach you skillz.....

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From their website * Please note: The LiteSkin (or Performance) CX tires (700x33c) do not have the high pressure resistant bead, they are not suitable for tubeless conversions.

 

I is confused, High pressure resistant bead. What does that mean? I ride tubeless at about 1.6 bar, that is not so high.

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From their website * Please note: The LiteSkin (or Performance) CX tires (700x33c) do not have the high pressure resistant bead, they are not suitable for tubeless conversions.

 

I is confused, High pressure resistant bead. What does that mean? I ride tubeless at about 1.6 bar, that is not so high.

CX = cyclocross

 

So that cyclocross tyre isn't suitable for the high pressure tubeless setups that they run in cyclocross.

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Ok so a question to the tire experts ....

 

Supposing you had the choice of the tires in the picture (Arisun - Mount Graham, Continental X-king and Vittoria Saguaro)

 

I currently have the Mount Grahams fr and bk .... don't like them but got them free  :ph34r:

 

I have 1 * Saguaro and 2 * X-king 'spare'

 

Which combination would you guys suggest fr and bk out of what I have? 

 

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I like front and rear the same, looks nicer. 

 

That would be first choice but sometimes you just gotta 'use what you got'  :whistling:

 

My thinking was perhaps the Saguaro in 'traction mode' in the front and the X-king at the back ...

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Yes....they're brilliant and their price is unbeatable. Read bikeradar reviews and you'll see that both the Buther and the Ground Control makes it onto their top 10 list. Personally I'd take the Buther over the Purgatory up front as it is a bit more versatile and then I have Ground Control on the back for a little speed and slide

 

Have to agree Pyka. Used to be a fan of Schwalbe RR front and rear for an all round xc tyre, but their prices got ridiculous, and they wept all the sealant through the tread.

Switched to FastTrack/Ground Control up front & Renegade on the rear, and only have good things to say.

Considering you can get 2 G.Controls (in Control version) for the price of 1 RR (snakeskin)... No going back.

Onza Canis looks interesting too.

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Ok so a question to the tire experts ....

 

Supposing you had the choice of the tires in the picture (Arisun - Mount Graham, Continental X-king and Vittoria Saguaro)

 

I currently have the Mount Grahams fr and bk .... don't like them but got them free  :ph34r:

 

I have 1 * Saguaro and 2 * X-king 'spare'

 

Which combination would you guys suggest fr and bk out of what I have? 

 

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IMO - those Mount Grahams (never heard of them) are more than likely better than the continentals. Had X-Kings a few years back, and got really tired of finding myself sprawled on the trail, with no forewarning.... Reckon they hold up fine, but there is a point where they just let go...

Now there is a set of tyres you should give away (to pay it forward).... I would go as far as including the postage.... :ph34r:

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That would be first choice but sometimes you just gotta 'use what you got'  :whistling:

 

My thinking was perhaps the Saguaro in 'traction mode' in the front and the X-king at the back ...

i dont profess to be an expert, but y would you want the Sag in traction mode especially in the front? will this not compromise your braking ability? dont you normally want 'traction mode' for rear? i could be talking a ball of snot here. iwud say Sag normal mode rear and x-king front and stick to normal rotation. but to be honest, i suppose this will work best for xc type riding. does it make any sense? :ph34r:

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Have to agree Pyka. Used to be a fan of Schwalbe RR front and rear for an all round xc tyre, but their prices got ridiculous, and they wept all the sealant through the tread.

Switched to FastTrack/Ground Control up front & Renegade on the rear, and only have good things to say.

Considering you can get 2 G.Controls (in Control version) for the price of 1 RR (snakeskin)... No going back.

Onza Canis looks interesting too.

Canis is a bloody awesome rear tyre, but unfortunately you can't get it locally in the Freeride casing, and are stuck with the floppy xc casing. Does well for an xc front as well

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That would be first choice but sometimes you just gotta 'use what you got'  :whistling:

 

My thinking was perhaps the Saguaro in 'traction mode' in the front and the X-king at the back ...

 

Don't use the saguaro on the front.  It sucks as a front tyre.  It's a brilliant rear tyre, but just doesn't have the grip for the front.

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They are still perfect after the rocky 247km ride. I had them at 3bar and the ride was quick, a little twitchey, but with lots of grip when I needed it.

 

Saw plenty of folks that had flats, mostly snake bites from sharp rocks.

 

Thus I conclude sidewall protection would have been a waste of money here.

I have also been wondering about "sidewall protection" lately. In the last 10 years or so, the only sidewall damage I had was on a Maxxis UST tire, a Conti race king protection and a Maxxis icon EXO. Most punctures was on TAR ROADS. And that was on the tread area. Watch out for green glass.

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Have to agree Pyka. Used to be a fan of Schwalbe RR front and rear for an all round xc tyre, but their prices got ridiculous, and they wept all the sealant through the tread.

Switched to FastTrack/Ground Control up front & Renegade on the rear, and only have good things to say.

Considering you can get 2 G.Controls (in Control version) for the price of 1 RR (snakeskin)... No going back.

Onza Canis looks interesting too.

Yeah I also moved over from the Schwalbe camp. While the NoNi worked and held up okay on the front the RoRo on the back was a disaster on anything other than smooth jeep tracks. Even with my feathery weight of 70kg (no calves) they kept puncturing.

 

The spez tires, regardless of their stupidly affordable price, are just better for my type of riding. Stronger, grippier and not THAT much heavier.

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