Hairy Posted January 27, 2015 Share Ok so I have been in and out here thinking you all mad esp, Dr coffee I have been called a Neanderthal and and and Tomorrow I'm off to get my MACHINEAll I can say is it's shinny and pretty , it's got modifications (not sure that means) pressure control,steam something and it comes from the mad man himself so it has to be good, and it comes with a lesson from the man the myth the coffee legend,,,,,,come to think of it I think I must send the wife So maybe tomorrow I can say what REAL COFFEE tastes like and I will know what you lot are on about.Time for you to put away the frisco and cremora dips Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/115676-coffee-machine/page/169/#findComment-2531796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIPSLICK Posted January 27, 2015 Share Time for you to put away the frisco and cremora dipsThere's no cremora in the refrigerator !!!! ITS NOT INSIDE ITTTSSSSS ON TOP,!! Hairy 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/115676-coffee-machine/page/169/#findComment-2531807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted January 27, 2015 Share Imagine all the people... that have the time to create something like this Stretched@Birth 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/115676-coffee-machine/page/169/#findComment-2531864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana Posted January 27, 2015 Share Not looking at the Porlex? They are available locally through Cape coffee beans..... Â I got one in December. It's a great little Grinder!I have a Kyocera grinder that is similar to the Porlex. I don't use it often because I really don't want to grind for longer than 30 seconds, and those small hand grinders take a few minutes to grind for one double. My two Spong and one Lovelock hand grinders give a better grind quality and they grind a double in less than 20 seconds. I use them most of the time, but I am looking at the Lido 2 as a potential travelling grinder. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/115676-coffee-machine/page/169/#findComment-2531965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydkayak Posted January 28, 2015 Share  2.DONT USE DOUBLE WALL BASKETS  Where do you guys get single wall baskets, I have a feeling that the Breville basket is the same size as my machine's basket. I am trying to go through "the foschini group" who brings Breville into SA... Must be single wall baskets available somewhere? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/115676-coffee-machine/page/169/#findComment-2532029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rouxtjie Posted January 28, 2015 Share To point 5 - when do you start timing? At best I get 13 to 16 seconds of actual flow of coffee, though the gauge reached 12:30 after I tamp "moer hard"...As soon as I press the 2 cup button....so yes that maybe explains the time diff. I know the machine does like a pre soak of the grind, but that is at worst 3-4 seconds. So lets say its about 19-24 seconds of coffee flow. Stretched@Birth 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/115676-coffee-machine/page/169/#findComment-2532040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rouxtjie Posted January 28, 2015 Share Where do you guys get single wall baskets, I have a feeling that the Breville basket is the same size as my machine's basket. I am trying to go through "the foschini group" who brings Breville into SA... Must be single wall baskets available somewhere?Mine came with the machine...to be honest, I dont know where you can buy them Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/115676-coffee-machine/page/169/#findComment-2532041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana Posted January 28, 2015 Share Wouter Strietman is a true craftsman, and it can be clearly seen in the design and manufacture of the Espresso Strietman ES3. He used the Arrarex Caravel as inspiration: http://strietman.net/wp-content/uploads/IMG_1240_DEF_VRM_WEB3.jpg http://strietman.net/wp-content/uploads/ES3_Espresso_Machine.jpg http://strietman.net/wp-content/uploads/ES3_Built_for_a_Lifetime.jpg http://strietman.net/wp-content/uploads/STRIETMAN-contact_web.jpg    rouxtjie, Hairy, Wayne Potgieter and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/115676-coffee-machine/page/169/#findComment-2532042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Gordo Posted January 28, 2015 Share All seems rather complicated or not. Maybe I am just lazy seeing how my machine is a bean to cup, grinds the beans, presses the coffee, and voila, cuppacino, latte, espresso or just plain black I am actually very impressed with how easy it all is Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/115676-coffee-machine/page/169/#findComment-2532138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted January 28, 2015 Share All seems rather complicated or not. Maybe I am just lazy seeing how my machine is a bean to cup, grinds the beans, presses the coffee, and voila, cuppacino, latte, espresso or just plain black I am actually very impressed with how easy it all issounds like a 29'er with a brain fitted .... takes away all the fun of feeling what you are doing Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/115676-coffee-machine/page/169/#findComment-2532193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rouxtjie Posted January 28, 2015 Share All seems rather complicated or not. Maybe I am just lazy seeing how my machine is a bean to cup, grinds the beans, presses the coffee, and voila, cuppacino, latte, espresso or just plain black I am actually very impressed with how easy it all isNot complicated at all....admin yes. But then variables that determine the taste are much easier to change. Just depends if its your cup of tea(grappie hoor) or not the nerd 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/115676-coffee-machine/page/169/#findComment-2532201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
V12man Posted January 28, 2015 Share As soon as I press the 2 cup button....so yes that maybe explains the time diff. I know the machine does like a pre soak of the grind, but that is at worst 3-4 seconds. So lets say its about 19-24 seconds of coffee flow.You should not have to tamp "moer hard" at all. Around 15 pounds of downward pressure is right. Grind a little finer, and stir the coffee grinds with a dissecting needle or skinny chopstick/toothpick before leveling and tamping. This should improve your flow rates a bit, you are probably getting a lot of channeling, which is why it flows so fast. Timing should be from pump on - unless you are doing a pre-infusion cycle too, in which case you time from when the main pump on happens (so ignore the pre-infusion cycle time) Stretched@Birth 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/115676-coffee-machine/page/169/#findComment-2532272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted January 28, 2015 Share Machine arrived at home this morning ... Yuppie chep have been good on coms and delivery. They ask if it is a gift when ordering, so I was curious and said it was .... added a message to the gift notes ..... arrived with pretty wrapping over and a card. Will take a look tonight when I get home and give a spin ..... wife seems happy with it so far. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/115676-coffee-machine/page/169/#findComment-2532342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana Posted January 28, 2015 Share You should not have to tamp "moer hard" at all. Around 15 pounds of downward pressure is right. Grind a little finer, and stir the coffee grinds with a dissecting needle or skinny chopstick/toothpick before leveling and tamping. This should improve your flow rates a bit, you are probably getting a lot of channeling, which is why it flows so fast. Timing should be from pump on - unless you are doing a pre-infusion cycle too, in which case you time from when the main pump on happens (so ignore the pre-infusion cycle time)Great advice above. I use a small funnel to dose the tiny 44mm filter basket of the Caravel. I then give it a quick stir with a toothpick, level and then a lightish tamp (<10kg if I had to guess). Works great. I keep tamping force constant and adjust the grind finer as the beans age. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/115676-coffee-machine/page/169/#findComment-2532355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Gordo Posted January 28, 2015 Share hmm, why do you girnd the beans finer Brian? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/115676-coffee-machine/page/169/#findComment-2532372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the nerd Posted January 28, 2015 Share More time for the water to saturate the coffee, the faster the flow of water the less "coffee" you getting... You are also able to adjust the taste by the grind and dose, small changes in either will make big changes in the cup.  *just an aside, if you near greenside head to The Roast Republic coffee shop on greenway just off the circle. Brilliant coffee and R10 a cappuccino between 7 and 12. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/115676-coffee-machine/page/169/#findComment-2532382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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