Is motorcycling allowed?

[IceCreamMan]

I saw this on The Bike Show. 65000€ o my word and it's ugly.

 

http://www.broughsuperiormotorcycles.com/models/anniversary/introduction

Jeepers that’s a lot of loot.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Badly written. Could also indicate you can't overtake of you're two-up? Which would be daft.

I’d base my argument there on the us of the word driving instead of riding, otherwise I agree that viewed with a healthy squint and several glasses of whiskey, it may be read as such.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

I saw this on The Bike Show. 65000€ o my word and it's ugly.http://www.broughsuperiormotorcycles.com/models/anniversary/introduction

???????????????? erm, no.

Edited October 14, 2019 by Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

[i24]

They're actually not, if you read the amendment properly. Also, JP Smith has come out and said that they're definitely not. Bold bit is the text. Nowhere does it say lane splitting will be illegal. It DOES say that motos cannot ride 2 abreast in the same lane, and that 2 motos cannot simultaneously pass the same car. Which is logical. 

 

The amended by-law states: “People, other than authorised officials in the performance of their duties, driving (sic) motorcycles on a public road, shall drive in single file except in the course of overtaking another motorcycle, and two or more persons driving motorcycles shall not overtake another vehicle at the same time: Provided that where a public road is divided into traffic lanes, each such lane shall, for the purposes of this paragraph, be regarded as a public road.”

 

I am not sure what they are trying to achieve. My experience trying to ride in single file in the middle of the lane, is that an SUV or a Taxi tries to overtake you by squeezing past in the 1/2 lane on one or the other side when you slow down for traffic or a robot. Not pleasant at all. You need to have eyes in the back of your head and while scanning the traffic for options for the inevitable evasive manoeuvre.

 

That paragraph looks poorly worded, it achieves nothing and it won't and probably cannot be enforced. Maybe I should add a comment to the City website:

 

http://www.capetown.gov.za/City-Connect/Have-your-say/Issues-open-for-public-comment/draft-traffic-by-law

[patches]

I am not sure what they are trying to achieve. My experience trying to ride in single file in the middle of the lane, is that an SUV or a Taxi tries to overtake you by squeezing past in the 1/2 lane on one or the other side when you slow down for traffic or a robot. Not pleasant at all. You need to have eyes in the back of your head and while scanning the traffic for options for the inevitable evasive manoeuvre.

 

That paragraph looks poorly worded, it achieves nothing and it won't and probably cannot be enforced. Maybe I should add a comment to the City website:

 

http://www.capetown.gov.za/City-Connect/Have-your-say/Issues-open-for-public-comment/draft-traffic-by-law

 

Here in NZ they have the RideForever safe riding courses.

 

They are subsidized by the government and every rider is entitled to 2 per year at no cost/$20 (depending on availability). There are multiple levels: Scooter, Bronze, Silver, Gold, Racing, to cater for all sorts.

 

I went on a bronze course last year before I did my Restricted Licence (3 license levels in NZ) test and it was amazing. An instructor kits everyone with a comms unit and then they takes the group (5 or so) out on a ride. Occasionally they'll stop in quiet location and go through some techniques/drills. The whole thing lasts about 6hrs.

 

One of the biggest things I learnt on the course is that the safest place to ride is inline with a car's right tyres, when travelling straight. It changes when cornering or blind crests.

 

Some of the reasons being:

• Riders are more visible to cars at side-roads on left.
• When riders are behind cars they are more visible to oncoming traffic (less chance of an oncoming car overtaking the car in front of them once they pass the car in front of you).
• Riders have more visibility of what's down the road.
• Riders have more space to move over when passing large oncoming trucks etc.
• Cars will not try overtake you in your own lane

If that was all I learnt that day, it was priceless.

[davetapson]

Here in NZ they have the RideForever safe riding courses.

 

They are subsidized by the government and every rider is entitled to 2 per year at no cost/$20 (depending on availability). There are multiple levels: Scooter, Bronze, Silver, Gold, Racing, to cater for all sorts.

 

I went on a bronze course last year before I did my Restricted Licence (3 license levels in NZ) test and it was amazing. An instructor kits everyone with a comms unit and then they takes the group (5 or so) out on a ride. Occasionally they'll stop in quiet location and go through some techniques/drills. The whole thing lasts about 6hrs.

 

One of the biggest things I learnt on the course is that the safest place to ride is inline with a car's right tyres, when travelling straight. It changes when cornering or blind crests.

 

Some of the reasons being:

• Riders are more visible to cars at side-roads on left.
• When riders are behind cars they are more visible to oncoming traffic (less chance of an oncoming car overtaking the car in front of them once they pass the car in front of you).
• Riders have more visibility of what's down the road.
• Riders have more space to move over when passing large oncoming trucks etc.
• Cars will not try overtake you in your own lane

If that was all I learnt that day, it was priceless.

 

It's amazing how often it's just one thing, but that one thing is a life saver.  For me, in the UK, it was 'make eye contact with anyone who has the potential to flatten you' - i.e. at an intersection, any car that will turn in your path.

 

The reasoning being, that if you've made eye contact, they've 'seen' you.  If you can't make eye contact, assume they have not seen you, and act accordingly.

 

The number of times I've made eye contact and the driver has visibly reacted shows how often they just don't see you until you make yourself obvious - by the eye contact thing.

 

It's not a staring competition or anything, just enough so that you know they've seen you.

 

Works for cycling too.

[patches]

It's amazing how often it's just one thing, but that one thing is a life saver.  For me, in the UK, it was 'make eye contact with anyone who has the potential to flatten you' - i.e. at an intersection, any car that will turn in your path.

 

The reasoning being, that if you've made eye contact, they've 'seen' you.  If you can't make eye contact, assume they have not seen you, and act accordingly.

 

The number of times I've made eye contact and the driver has visibly reacted shows how often they just don't see you until you make yourself obvious - by the eye contact thing.

 

It's not a staring competition or anything, just enough so that you know they've seen you.

 

Works for cycling too.

 

Oh yeah, that's a great bit of advice. I recall someone telling me that a few years ago when riding bicycles in SA.

 

In general I find the Kiwi drivers pretty mindful of motorcyclists. So I do feel reasonably safe on the roads,

 

I would like SH1 to be like the N1 with decent sized emergency lanes which bikers use (even if they aren't supposed to).

 

As for one the previous topic of discussion, ie. "Lane Splitting", ias far as I am aware it's legal in NZ, and there are conditions as to how exactly it should be done etc. It seems relatively complicated.

 

But yeah, I do it in traffic if the cars are going half the posted speed limit or less. Otherwise I just sit in my lane like everyone else.

 

The one thing I'm not too sure about is standing up and riding.

 

Long distance adventure rides can be killer on the legs and butt. So when I see those 50KPH speed limit signs as I approach a town I pass through, I stand up and stretch.

 

I have read articles from Aus where cops pull bikers over for standing or even taking their feet off the pegs while seated as they "are not in full control of the vehicle".

 

NZ cops are way friendlier and I feel are less likely to pull one over just just to be difficult. But I would prefer not to chance it.

[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

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Some of the reasons being:

• Riders are more visible to cars at side-roads on left.
• When riders are behind cars they are more visible to oncoming traffic (less chance of an oncoming car overtaking the car in front of them once they pass the car in front of you).
• Riders have more visibility of what's down the road.
• Riders have more space to move over when passing large oncoming trucks etc.
• Cars will not try overtake you in your own lane

If that was all I learnt that day, it was priceless.

 

I bet there's a taxi driver or boertjie in a Wildtrack Ford who would take you up on that.............

Here in SA anyway

[Allrounder]

Oh yeah, that's a great bit of advice. I recall someone telling me that a few years ago when riding bicycles in SA.

 

In general I find the Kiwi drivers pretty mindful of motorcyclists. So I do feel reasonably safe on the roads,

 

I would like SH1 to be like the N1 with decent sized emergency lanes which bikers use (even if they aren't supposed to).

 

As for one the previous topic of discussion, ie. "Lane Splitting", ias far as I am aware it's legal in NZ, and there are conditions as to how exactly it should be done etc. It seems relatively complicated.

 

But yeah, I do it in traffic if the cars are going half the posted speed limit or less. Otherwise I just sit in my lane like everyone else.

 

The one thing I'm not too sure about is standing up and riding.

 

Long distance adventure rides can be killer on the legs and butt. So when I see those 50KPH speed limit signs as I approach a town I pass through, I stand up and stretch.

 

I have read articles from Aus where cops pull bikers over for standing or even taking their feet off the pegs while seated as they "are not in full control of the vehicle".

 

NZ cops are way friendlier and I feel are less likely to pull one over just just to be difficult. But I would prefer not to chance it.

 

Stop at one of the Coppers, take out 2 beers from your backpack and chat with them about the do's and don'ts. 

[davetapson]

Stop at one of the Coppers, take out 2 beers from your backpack and chat with them about the do's and don'ts. 

 

Driving down the south coast 100 years ago when I was a student at PMB - couple of buddies and I are quaffing a few beers on the road.  Cop van pulls up next to us, motions for us to wind down the window, passes us a six-pack, takes off.

 

True story.

Edited October 16, 2019 by davetapson

[IceCreamMan]

Interesting article bout Marquez’s airbag suit he was wearing in tgat Thailand crash. Article in MCN.

 

Article reckons when he hit the deck the g forces recorded were 26.14.

[patches]

I bet there's a taxi driver or boertjie in a Wildtrack Ford who would take you up on that.............

Here in SA anyway

 

A while back I watched a ton of those Angry, Crazy, Stupid People vs Bikers vids on the Moto Madness youtube channel.

 

It scared the life outta me what motorists can and will do on the road. The bikers aren't always blameless either.

 

Occasionally one sees clips from SA, invariably involving a taxi, hahaha!

 

I must say that as scary as those vids are, they can help one become more skeptical, observant, and analytical of what may happen on the roads.

[mazambaan]

A while back I watched a ton of those Angry, Crazy, Stupid People vs Bikers vids on the Moto Madness youtube channel.

 

It scared the life outta me what motorists can and will do on the road. The bikers aren't always blameless either.

 

Occasionally one sees clips from SA, invariably involving a taxi, hahaha!

 

I must say that as scary as those vids are, they can help one become more skeptical, observant, and analytical of what may happen on the roads.

 

There is a similar one for Dirt bikers that I find very funny. Maybe it is because I have inadvertently participated in similar events.

[RocknRolla]

A while back I watched a ton of those Angry, Crazy, Stupid People vs Bikers vids on the Moto Madness youtube channel.

 

It scared the life outta me what motorists can and will do on the road. The bikers aren't always blameless either.

 

Occasionally one sees clips from SA, invariably involving a taxi, hahaha!

 

I must say that as scary as those vids are, they can help one become more skeptical, observant, and analytical of what may happen on the roads.

 

This, so much.

[the nerd]

Got a flat on the bike last night going home, first time ive experienced this.. 

 

super *** feeling! 

[sawystertrance]

Got a flat on the bike last night going home, first time ive experienced this.. 

 

super *** feeling! 

 

Tubeless? No plug kit?