LazyTrailRider Posted June 9, 2015 Share Can't really compare a Mazda to a PYGA! Not even remotely. EmptyB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun McCormack Posted June 9, 2015 Share Guys, I've been riding a Pyga Zero 29, hardtail, for a couple of years now and I farking love the thing. The Stage Max will be my next bike. Remember, the Pros pay diddly for their bikes. They're getting paid to ride whatever brand is forking out at the time. It's marketing 101, and it's obviously working on a lot of you! So instead of looking for reasons to hate the Pigga, just take one for a spin. If the old hardtail does what it does, the new carbon boy will without a doubt be an absolute riot. ALSO you can go and talk to the okes who design the things. In the flesh! Pat and his gang in PMB or Mark and his gang in Slaapies. Try doing that on a 'famous name' bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Cruz Posted June 9, 2015 Share "Pat and his gang in PMB or Mark and his gang in Slaapies. Try doing that on a 'famous name' bike." The discrepancy between engineering departments and testing crews are substantial with most brands. Not that many notice. Regrettably. Remarkable seeing the contagious anti-Pyga sentiment from some, supported by some very tenuous logic.If I was going to own a quiver-killing 29er for local conditions, this would be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicoBoshoff Posted June 9, 2015 Share Just to be clear. I never said the bike is junk. How would I know? It's just retardedly expensive. As are S-Works, Carbon Scalpels, Trek 9.8's. I just don't see how (other than Giant) no one has attacked the market by doing this cheaper (maybe with XT 11 speeds it will drop a bit) or making it worthwhile to buy second-hand (by making warranties transferable or extendable). Instead, we get "cheap and easy ways to finance your dream bike" - because more consumer debt is what this country needs. It's a bike, not bypass surgery. Bizkit031, PhilipV, Oneman and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Cruz Posted June 9, 2015 Share “It's just retardedly expensive. As are S-Works, Carbon Scalpels, Trek 9.8's.” The market will price at demand level. Similar fundamental economics to automotive purchasing and property rentals. “I just don't see how (other than Giant) no one has attacked the market by doing this cheaper (maybe with XT 11 speeds it will drop a bit”Ironically, for many who purchase bicycling goods at this near six-figure price level the absolute price, and knowledge that others are cognisant of that price point, is part of the appeal. Odd? Yes. But ostentation is the face of staggering income inequality is a South Africanism. “or making it worthwhile to buy second-hand (by making warranties transferable or extendable).”Two market forces at work here. Consumers, tutored in behaviour by the electronics industry, actually believe in the 12 month product cycle; even if a new model year product is only a kaleidoscope of different colour ways. New is good: preowned is a hand-me-down cricket bat: bad. As a manufacturer: do you wish to own a legacy issue? I don’t. “Never raced or road-gapped… Lightly used.” Sure. Mass to wear coefficient needs to be considered too. Is a pre-owned 96kg rider bike worth less than a similar 70kg owner bike? Probably. How does this influence the warrantee fluidity? “Instead, we get "cheap and easy ways to finance your dream bike" - because more consumer debt is what this country needs.” A fool and his/her money are easily parted. We all need to go back to steel single-speeds with 130mm, 34 stanchion forks and droppers. There will be such harmony on the trails if this transpires. Edited June 9, 2015 by Lance Cruz Oneman and BrandonF_ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoBigBen Posted June 9, 2015 Share Sni snip snip We all need to go back to steel single-speeds with 130mm, 34 stanchion forks and droppers. There will be such harmony on the trails if this transpires. Not in my lifetime since in most cases it's not the bike but the oke that would be a chop in most other spheres of life as well, just my humble opinion anyway .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwan Kemp Posted June 9, 2015 Share We all need to go back to steel single-speeds with 130mm, 34 stanchion forks and droppers. There will be such harmony on the trails if this transpires. Done and done and done. And just look at me... Hairy, Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and Bizkit031 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted June 9, 2015 Share We all need to go back to steel single-speeds with 140mm, 34 stanchion forks and droppers. There will be such harmony on the trails if this transpires. fixed for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanpmb Posted June 9, 2015 Share We all need to go back to steel single-speeds 1x10 with 130mm 150mm, 34 35 stanchion forks and droppers. There will be such harmony on the trails if this transpires. Done Happy, harmonious days! Edited June 9, 2015 by Ryanpmb Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Stuart Posted June 9, 2015 Share This thread… I can't believe nobody's been called Hitler yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Cruz Posted June 9, 2015 Share "This thread… I can't believe nobody's been called Hitler yet."Actually, I think the debate has been mostly constructive and necessary, with interesting questions being asked about pricing, sourcing, economies of scale and the marketing budgets versus actual heritage. Ryanpmb and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaco-fiets Posted June 9, 2015 Share Can't really compare a Mazda to a PYGA!You are correct! My bad! But unfortunately I don't own a Tata so could not make that comparison Johny Bravo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johny Bravo Posted June 9, 2015 Share You are correct! My bad! But unfortunately I don't own a Tata so could not make that comparison Vrydag is nog ver. Lone_Ranger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awesme Posted June 9, 2015 Share but we're doing so well. G Vrydag is nog ver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanC Posted June 11, 2015 Share Will there be a small frame available in the near future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splat Posted June 12, 2015 Share BikeRumor.com article: http://www.bikerumor.com/2015/06/11/pyga-industries-marathon-xc-bikes-feature-slack-steering-and-unique-chainline-spacing/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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