LazyTrailRider Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 Can't really compare a Mazda to a PYGA! Not even remotely. EmptyB 1
Shaun McCormack Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 Guys, I've been riding a Pyga Zero 29, hardtail, for a couple of years now and I farking love the thing. The Stage Max will be my next bike. Remember, the Pros pay diddly for their bikes. They're getting paid to ride whatever brand is forking out at the time. It's marketing 101, and it's obviously working on a lot of you! So instead of looking for reasons to hate the Pigga, just take one for a spin. If the old hardtail does what it does, the new carbon boy will without a doubt be an absolute riot. ALSO you can go and talk to the okes who design the things. In the flesh! Pat and his gang in PMB or Mark and his gang in Slaapies. Try doing that on a 'famous name' bike.
Lance Cruz Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 "Pat and his gang in PMB or Mark and his gang in Slaapies. Try doing that on a 'famous name' bike." The discrepancy between engineering departments and testing crews are substantial with most brands. Not that many notice. Regrettably. Remarkable seeing the contagious anti-Pyga sentiment from some, supported by some very tenuous logic.If I was going to own a quiver-killing 29er for local conditions, this would be it.
NicoBoshoff Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 Just to be clear. I never said the bike is junk. How would I know? It's just retardedly expensive. As are S-Works, Carbon Scalpels, Trek 9.8's. I just don't see how (other than Giant) no one has attacked the market by doing this cheaper (maybe with XT 11 speeds it will drop a bit) or making it worthwhile to buy second-hand (by making warranties transferable or extendable). Instead, we get "cheap and easy ways to finance your dream bike" - because more consumer debt is what this country needs. It's a bike, not bypass surgery. Oneman, Bizkit031, PhilipV and 4 others 7
Lance Cruz Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) “It's just retardedly expensive. As are S-Works, Carbon Scalpels, Trek 9.8's.” The market will price at demand level. Similar fundamental economics to automotive purchasing and property rentals. “I just don't see how (other than Giant) no one has attacked the market by doing this cheaper (maybe with XT 11 speeds it will drop a bit”Ironically, for many who purchase bicycling goods at this near six-figure price level the absolute price, and knowledge that others are cognisant of that price point, is part of the appeal. Odd? Yes. But ostentation is the face of staggering income inequality is a South Africanism. “or making it worthwhile to buy second-hand (by making warranties transferable or extendable).”Two market forces at work here. Consumers, tutored in behaviour by the electronics industry, actually believe in the 12 month product cycle; even if a new model year product is only a kaleidoscope of different colour ways. New is good: preowned is a hand-me-down cricket bat: bad. As a manufacturer: do you wish to own a legacy issue? I don’t. “Never raced or road-gapped… Lightly used.” Sure. Mass to wear coefficient needs to be considered too. Is a pre-owned 96kg rider bike worth less than a similar 70kg owner bike? Probably. How does this influence the warrantee fluidity? “Instead, we get "cheap and easy ways to finance your dream bike" - because more consumer debt is what this country needs.” A fool and his/her money are easily parted. We all need to go back to steel single-speeds with 130mm, 34 stanchion forks and droppers. There will be such harmony on the trails if this transpires. Edited June 9, 2015 by Lance Cruz Oneman and BrandonF_ 2
NotSoBigBen Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 Sni snip snip We all need to go back to steel single-speeds with 130mm, 34 stanchion forks and droppers. There will be such harmony on the trails if this transpires. Not in my lifetime since in most cases it's not the bike but the oke that would be a chop in most other spheres of life as well, just my humble opinion anyway ....
Iwan Kemp Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 We all need to go back to steel single-speeds with 130mm, 34 stanchion forks and droppers. There will be such harmony on the trails if this transpires. Done and done and done. And just look at me... Hairy, Bizkit031 and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 3
Hairy Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 We all need to go back to steel single-speeds with 140mm, 34 stanchion forks and droppers. There will be such harmony on the trails if this transpires. fixed for you
Ryanpmb Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) We all need to go back to steel single-speeds 1x10 with 130mm 150mm, 34 35 stanchion forks and droppers. There will be such harmony on the trails if this transpires. Done Happy, harmonious days! Edited June 9, 2015 by Ryanpmb Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1
Barry Stuart Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 This thread… I can't believe nobody's been called Hitler yet.
Lance Cruz Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 "This thread… I can't believe nobody's been called Hitler yet."Actually, I think the debate has been mostly constructive and necessary, with interesting questions being asked about pricing, sourcing, economies of scale and the marketing budgets versus actual heritage. Ryanpmb and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 2
Jaco-fiets Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 Can't really compare a Mazda to a PYGA!You are correct! My bad! But unfortunately I don't own a Tata so could not make that comparison Johny Bravo 1
Johny Bravo Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 You are correct! My bad! But unfortunately I don't own a Tata so could not make that comparison Vrydag is nog ver. Lone_Ranger 1
JohanC Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 Will there be a small frame available in the near future?
splat Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 BikeRumor.com article: http://www.bikerumor.com/2015/06/11/pyga-industries-marathon-xc-bikes-feature-slack-steering-and-unique-chainline-spacing/
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