shaper Posted July 14, 2015 Share Tour de France 2015: Chris Froome’s ride for glory under threat in data spying storm Sky consult lawyers over hacking of training files as the team braces for its leader to face doping questions http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/cycling/tour-de-france/11737387/Tour-de-France-2015-Chris-Froomes-ride-for-glory-under-threat-in-data-spying-storm.html Edited July 14, 2015 by shaper skipperw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted July 14, 2015 Share The main reason they keep the files private is every coach wannabee runs to their calculator forgetting any context and spews out the rubbish that was publish today. Matt T, Smurfy and GLuvsMtb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield2010 Posted July 15, 2015 Share I always start to wonder when 2 teammates are way stronger than specialist climbers. Is blood doping detectable yet if one uses one's own blood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco Posted July 15, 2015 Share I always start to wonder when 2 teammates are way stronger than specialist climbers. 3 team members in the top six, the rest of the field minutes back. That's not suspicious, is it? It appears that English cucumber sandwiches are far superior to Spanish beef. intern, WhuYu, amosdelange and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield2010 Posted July 15, 2015 Share I remember a few years back team sky's sprinter at that stage was leading the pack up the mountains and 80% of the peloton had gone when he finally fell off with 7 other guys ready to take over. Is it the same thing all over again? Only new faces instead of Roberto Heras, Floyd Landis, Tyler Hamilton and co? I hope not but I find it very hard to believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted July 15, 2015 Share 3 team members in the top six, the rest of the field minutes back. That's not suspicious, is it? Skyborgs 1 - Everyone Else 0. It's kinda sad though that our sport has been tainted so badly that any "out of the ordinary" performance is seen as suspect... candz1, shaper, garynicky and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicanZA Posted July 15, 2015 Share smoke on the horizon.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted this on (yet) another Froome thread: http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/07/froomes-ventoux-data-leak-analysed/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted July 15, 2015 Share I remember a few years back team sky's sprinter at that stage was leading the pack up the mountains and 80% of the peloton had gone when he finally fell off with 7 other guys ready to take over. Is it the same thing all over again? Only new faces instead of Roberto Heras, Floyd Landis, Tyler Hamilton and co? I hope not but I find it very hard to believe To be fair - most riders have 1 good day in them and can hold pace up hill until the real fireworks start. They go far into red then pop spectacularly and lose 30 minutes in the last 5km :-) tombeej 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryvdM Posted July 15, 2015 Share Is blood doping detectable yet if one uses one's own blood? Yes. The biological passport is used to check for jumps in hematocrit (volume percentage of red blood cells in blood) as well as unnatural levels in the ratio between old red blood cells and new red blood cells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicanZA Posted July 15, 2015 Share Yes. The biological passport is used to check for jumps in hematocrit (volume percentage of red blood cells in blood) as well as unnatural levels in the ratio between old red blood cells and new red blood cells.the biological passport cant even pickup micro doping. Gen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baaisikilist Posted July 15, 2015 Share I wonder what role the advancements in technology in terms of bikes, parts and gear (helmets, kit, shoes), aerodynamics etc has to play in riders being 'clean' now, but being faster than in an era when they were all 'dirty'...? Does anybody just enjoy watching pro cycling anymore...?It can't be that enjoyable if all one does is wonder how they're doing what they are, instead of just appreciating it. Edited July 15, 2015 by Baaisikilist Spinnekop, worriesnot and ewep 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryvdM Posted July 15, 2015 Share -1 to Sky for trying to play wack-a-mole. Key the Streisand effect. You are allways going to lose that game. intern 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popit Posted July 15, 2015 Share Hope this isn't another Lance Armstrong story ......Deny , deny , deny ... until caught , then admit and change tack . I love watching the Tour , but this performance certainly raises suspicion . Hopefully Chris is just that much better . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield2010 Posted July 15, 2015 Share I wonder what role the advancements in technology in terms of bikes, parts and gear (helmets, kit, shoes), aerodynamics etc has to play in riders being 'clean' now, but being faster than in an era when they were all 'dirty'...? Does anybody just enjoy watching pro cycling anymore...?It can't be that enjoyable if all one does is wonder how they're doing what they are, instead of just appreciating it. Because in a few years time the technology would have caught up and old samples will test positive and again we will see it all was a lie. Alternatively someone will squeal when the net closes in like in the LA case....... How many times do we want to bang our heads against the same wall. I watch the TDF and I have watched it since the mid 1990's. Yesterday evening I just got a bad feeling when I saw the Froome / Porte show..... intern 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadenceblur Posted July 15, 2015 Share this gets quite tiring actually. Any good performance is instantly met with skepticism.Would this not peeve anyone off? I'd rather just enjoy the performance for what it is - if there's any doping happening, hopefully it will be discovered - hindsight is a perfect science. SAGecko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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