Cyclists with a "Running" Problem

[Jewbacca]

I think that is the ugliest shoe I have ever seen.... worse than CROCS, bubblegummys, and those platform flip flops combined..... gross

[dave303e]

I think that is the ugliest shoe I have ever seen.... worse than CROCS, bubblegummys, and those platform flip flops combined..... gross

 

only real application I see for it is protection against standing on lego in the dark....

[SwissVan]

only real application I see for it is protection against standing on lego in the dark....

And for the vertically challenged

????

[travisza]

Anybody here run with Brooks Cascadia's? They seem to catch my eye more and more of late.

OK so two short runs completed. Both around 1hr / 10kms.

 

Ran up to the block house and then along the contour path a bit and then ran in Mont Rochelle Reserve in Franschhoek.

 

Mont Rochelle is very Rocky with steep ascents and descents. I have no real frame of reference but... Grip was great. Never felt like I had an issue. Soles offered good protection, I never felt any sharp rocks while running. Felt pretty stable coming down although I am very slow descending.

 

All in all very happy with the Brooke's so far

[ridr]

Ross's take on the shoe 'debate' -

Running shoe tech: The Emperor’s clothes, and the issues for the integrity of running

https://sportsscientists.com/2020/02/running-shoe-tech-the-emperors-clothes-and-the-issues-for-the-integrity-of-running/

Edited February 7, 2020 by ridr

[Ferret69]

Ross's take on the shoe 'debate' -

Running shoe tech: The Emperor’s clothes, and the issues for the integrity of running

https://sportsscientists.com/2020/02/running-shoe-tech-the-emperors-clothes-and-the-issues-for-the-integrity-of-running/

 

 

RT is a very one sided, one trick pony of late... and accordingly to a Tweet yesterday he is financially involved with Adidas.. so It pays him to bash the Nike technology.. literally

 

Want a Good Fair look at how it came about and what would have happened even if Nike were completely transparent see below

 

all the Time Nike were doing R&D no-one cared.. when they eventually found the Golden formula/Mix between Foam/Carbon and Stack height and released a World Beating Shoe... everyone went nuts..

 

 

https://www.outsideonline.com/2408971/nike-vaporfly-controversy#close

Edited February 7, 2020 by Ferret69

[ridr]

RT is a very one sided, one trick pony of late... and accordingly to a Tweet yesterday he is financially involved with Adidas.. so It pays him to bash the Nike technology.. literally

 

Want a Good Fair look at how it came about and what would have happened even if Nike were completely transparent see below

 

all the Time Nike were doing R&D no-one cared.. when they eventually found the Golden formula/Mix between Foam/Carbon and Stack height and released a World Beating Shoe... everyone went nuts..

 

 

https://www.outsideonline.com/2408971/nike-vaporfly-controversy#close

I'll have a look.

 

Haven't finished reading RT's article, but I did notice he put a fairly clear disclaimer/ conflict of interest statement at the end of it all:

 

Disclaimer/conflict of interest statement: Since 2009, adidas SA has sponsored a local road race called Two Oceans, and I wrote training programmes for the public for that event on their behalf. I also provided running training and physiology advice to clubs and at workshops sponsored by adidas SA. I had no involvement with the global parent company on shoe development or sales, and at my request, a contract clause that stipulated that I did not comment on or promote their shoes. If that leads you to dismiss the above arguments, that’s your prerogative, though I’d argue that the criticism here is not of Nike, who in fact are acknowledged for making an amazing shoe, but of the policy that allowed it. Your call on interpretation.

[Ferret69]

I'll have a look.

 

Haven't finished reading RT's article, but I did notice he put a fairly clear disclaimer/ conflict of interest statement at the end of it all:

 

Disclaimer/conflict of interest statement: Since 2009, adidas SA has sponsored a local road race called Two Oceans, and I wrote training programmes for the public for that event on their behalf. I also provided running training and physiology advice to clubs and at workshops sponsored by adidas SA. I had no involvement with the global parent company on shoe development or sales, and at my request, a contract clause that stipulated that I did not comment on or promote their shoes. If that leads you to dismiss the above arguments, that’s your prerogative, though I’d argue that the criticism here is not of Nike, who in fact are acknowledged for making an amazing shoe, but of the policy that allowed it. Your call on interpretation.

 

 

Quite amusing... I'm pretty sure those Disclaimers didn't appear on any of his anti Nike rants until he was called out yesterday on it.

[Ferret69]

OK so two short runs completed. Both around 1hr / 10kms.

 

Ran up to the block house and then along the contour path a bit and then ran in Mont Rochelle Reserve in Franschhoek.

 

Mont Rochelle is very Rocky with steep ascents and descents. I have no real frame of reference but... Grip was great. Never felt like I had an issue. Soles offered good protection, I never felt any sharp rocks while running. Felt pretty stable coming down although I am very slow descending.

 

All in all very happy with the Brooke's so far

 

 

 

Cascadia is a Good shoe but very very Chunky and heavy

 

For something lighter and faster I would go with the Pure Grit or Caldera if I had to buy in the Brooks Trail range.

 

see link below to some decent specials

 

https://brooksrunning-sa.co.za/men-trail-running-shoes/

Edited February 7, 2020 by Ferret69

[Edgar]

Quite amusing... I'm pretty sure those Disclaimers didn't appear on any of his anti Nike rants until he was called out yesterday on it.

 

 

That is definitely new.

[travisza]

Cascadia is a Good shoe but very very Chunky and heavy

 

For something lighter and faster I would go with the Pure Grit or Caldera if I had to buy in the Brooks Trail range.

 

see link below to some decent specials

 

https://brooksrunning-sa.co.za/men-trail-running-shoes/

It's definitely noticeably heavier than my usual road shoes.

[Jackes]

I like this one... 

 

https://twitter.com/MirandaBoonstra/status/1224984677674553347

[Jackes]

All in all very happy with the Brooke's so far

 

 

Thanks for the feedback, please do so long term again.    The cascadia and peregrine (especially the 10's according to reviews) keeps on bugging me to try them... 

[Barry Stuart]

RT is a very one sided, one trick pony of late... and accordingly to a Tweet yesterday he is financially involved with Adidas.. so It pays him to bash the Nike technology.. literally

 

Want a Good Fair look at how it came about and what would have happened even if Nike were completely transparent see below

 

all the Time Nike were doing R&D no-one cared.. when they eventually found the Golden formula/Mix between Foam/Carbon and Stack height and released a World Beating Shoe... everyone went nuts..

 

 

https://www.outsideonline.com/2408971/nike-vaporfly-controversy#close

 

If one wants an unbiased review of the science on anything from diet to shoe tech, Alex Hutchinson is always the go to.

[SeaBee]

Thanks for the feedback, please do so long term again.    The cascadia and peregrine (especially the 10's according to reviews) keeps on bugging me to try them... 

Personal opinion, but I love mu Peregrines. Used them since the 5, skipped a couple of numbers. Really suits my foot well, so not even contemplating anything else. The fact that I prefer Saucony as road shoes also helps. 4mm drop (or less) works for me. Running in stuff with higher drop for those shoe eating routine runs - and now starting to get some niggles. 

[Zama7]

Hey guys left my two oceans qualifying a bit late so I over trained the last couple of weeks and gave myself shin splints. Need to run a martahon in two weeks so looking for any recovery tips and alternative exercises to keep fit? Thanks